Are terrorist groups racist? (8 Viewers)

Zé Tahir

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On another note: There is a proposal to turn an old building into a mosque a couple blocks away from Ground Zero. Suffice it to say, this isn't going all that well. White trash is coming out in droves to protest it and have threatened violence.

At these times I think we (americans) really need to look at ourselves in the mirror and ask a simple question "do we really believe the things we say we stand for or are we just bullshitting"?

I'm beginning to think more and more that it is the latter.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128364839
That's a pretty dumb move though. Did they not find any other place to build a mosque?
 

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That's a pretty dumb move though. Did they not find any other place to build a mosque?
I'm sure there are plenty of places, but they aren't building it. They are refurbishing an old building.

I don't have a problem with it. It's not like they're building the mosque at ground zero. It's a few blocks away.
 
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    I actually find it a good initiative by the Americans if they do proceed with the mosque. It's as if they open a new chapter by this showing the world that ground zero wasn't in fact the place for a war between Americans and Muslims but rather terrorism and innocent people where the latter tragically lost but such a loss couldn't continue and by opening this mosque a few blocks away from ground zero they're opening their hearts to muslims who have had no part in such terror that struck them almost as hard as it struck Americans.

    Did you hear about Geddaffi saying that "democracy" is actually a Libyan concept stolen by the West? :lol:


    Gal eno asl el kelma, "deema karasy" deema in Libyan accent means always, if you didn't know that.
    :lol:

    No I didn't actually but my all time favorite is the one where he claims Shakespeare is in fact a Libyan who is calle Al Shei5 Zobair and that he moved for England looking to improve his life and their he exploded and the English are taking all the credit for Libyan blood :lol:
     

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    I actually find it a good initiative by the Americans if they do proceed with the mosque. It's as if they open a new chapter by this showing the world that ground zero wasn't in fact the place for a war between Americans and Muslims but rather terrorism and innocent people where the latter tragically lost but such a loss couldn't continue and by opening this mosque a few blocks away from ground zero they're opening their hearts to muslims who have had no part in such terror that struck them almost as hard as it struck Americans.
    I think that's what people tend to forget that it was 20 or so muslims that are responsible. Not all muslims.

    At the same time it really irks me to here people say things like "I think it will make relations better between Americans and muslims" as if merely being Islamic makes someone a lesser American. Or that relations are getting better between "blacks and Americans, Latinos and Americans, etc" as if Americans consist of only whites.
     
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    It certainly isn't a magic move that would drastically solve all the problems that started decades ago and is still building on some, but it will help mend bridges between the two groups, you might not believe that but a mosque in this case is more than just a building and Im not talking about the religious meaning here but rather the emotional one to muslims witnessing maybe a first where it was in fact Non Muslims asking for such a bridge between two different cultures who happens to be both of the same country now.

    It helps put sad memory behind and build on a present, I've seen it before.
     

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    I know the value of mosques in a community. My assistant footie coach back in high school was president of the local mosque. Really nice guy, good tactician, teacher, etc.
     

    .zero

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    Terrorist groups are probably racist in some sense. As most people are racist in some sense. The masterminds behind the attacks most certainly wanted African looking people to die rather than people with fairer Somali traits, so that it would be a message for the AU to stay out of Somalia.
    Terrorist groups are racist because they are ignorance-laced organizations. It goes hand in hand
     

    ReBeL

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    And how does Obama think he is better than them?

    Doesn't he kill Afghans and Iraqis right now just because they are what they are?
     

    Martin

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    And how does Obama think he is better than them?

    Doesn't he kill Afghans and Iraqis right now just because they are what they are?
    He's killing Afghans and Iraqis because he cares about employment. No US president would ever accept budget cuts for the biggest social employment organization of all: the military.

    But to keep the military growing (until it becomes as big as North Korea's) you need a constant threat, you need wars.
     

    ReBeL

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    Do not condone terrorism. It isn't always about the US.
    I do not condone terrorism. But Obama right now is the biggest terrorist as tens of people are killed by his army in Iraq, Pakistan and Afghanistan just because their luck made them live there.
     

    ReBeL

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    He's killing Afghans and Iraqis because he cares about employment. No US president would ever accept budget cuts for the biggest social employment organization of all: the military.

    But to keep the military growing (until it becomes as big as North Korea's) you need a constant threat, you need wars.
    Does that make him better than terrorists??
     

    Bjerknes

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    I do not condone terrorism. But Obama right now is the biggest terrorist as tens of people are killed by his army in Iraq, Pakistan and Afghanistan just because their luck made them live there.
    Well, don't worry. These folks will probably strike back and kill a bunch of Americans at home, which is predictable. Lather, rinse, repeat.

    There will only be an end to this nonsense unless there is encouragement TO end it by those in surrounding communities. Constantly pointing fingers at each other does nothing but encourage violence.

    But hey, perhaps that's what Obama and some folks from your land want.
     

    ReBeL

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    Well, don't worry. These folks will probably strike back and kill a bunch of Americans at home, which is predictable. Lather, rinse, repeat.

    There will only be an end to this nonsense unless there is encouragement TO end it by those in surrounding communities. Constantly pointing fingers at each other does nothing but encourage violence.

    But hey, perhaps that's what Obama and some folks from your land want.
    Well. I can not blame Somali guys who are being killed in their own country since 20 years. So, the real terrorists are those who came to Somalia just to kill people and to impose a stupid regime on the people there.

    On the other hand, Obama is not qualified to comment on that as he is killing tens of civilians all around the world. And by the way, saying that Somalis are racists because they killed Africans is just as stupid as the Israeli accusation of Arabs to be Anti-semitic, Knowing that Somalis ARE Africans and Arabs ARE Semitics.

    how do you measure if someone is "better"?
    At least if he does not do the same crime that he accuses others of.
     

    ReBeL

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    He's the president, I don't think he cares about crimes. Anything he says he says for political reasons.
    So, you are saying that when the American army keeps killing innocent people on a daily basis, their president can not be considered responsible for keeping the massacre going on?
     

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