Are Inter Fascista (2 Viewers)

Geof

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May 14, 2004
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#44
exactly, its just as bad as fascism.
At least Communism has a nice idea behind it. Now, it doesn't work due to the nature of human beings, and yes it has lead to catastrophies, but the original idea (Marx, Engels, Trotsky to some extend) was better than any fascist or nazi theory.

I do agree that the "coolness" of communism is disturbing, though.

And on topic: I don't think that Inter Ultras are more right wing than Juve's.
 

Gill_juve

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May 29, 2006
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#45
At least Communism has a nice idea behind it. Now, it doesn't work due to the nature of human beings, and yes it has lead to catastrophies, but the original idea (Marx, Engels, Trotsky to some extend) was better than any fascist or nazi theory.

I do agree that the "coolness" of communism is disturbing, though.

And on topic: I don't think that Inter Ultras are more right wing than Juve's.
yeh i see that. and i agree, the idea is great and if it was implemented correctly, it would be almost like eutopia. but it never works and is always twisted and mutated into something else. but i do have a problem with these communist sympathisers and che guevara lovers, first off most of them i know, know fuck all about him and two, they all act as if communism is the answer without ever looking at the history of past events.
 
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VoteChiamparino
Sep 1, 2007
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    Gentleman please. Whatever your politics, democracy is where the battle begins. However, fascism anti-human and even if people vote for it I would take up arms to prevent those ideals from being given any political airing.
     
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    VoteChiamparino
    Sep 1, 2007
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    At least Communism has a nice idea behind it. Now, it doesn't work due to the nature of human beings, and yes it has lead to catastrophies, but the original idea (Marx, Engels, Trotsky to some extend) was better than any fascist or nazi theory.

    I do agree that the "coolness" of communism is disturbing, though.

    And on topic: I don't think that Inter Ultras are more right wing than Juve's.
    Good post. Communism is fine as long as it democratically accountable.i.e. people can vote out them out if they become corrupt.
     

    Adzke

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    May 19, 2007
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    #53
    I thought a lot about posting it or not. But I think that picture is sheer class.

    It shows there is to show about Moratti.
     

    swag

    L'autista
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    Sep 23, 2003
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    #54
    communism is a joke in my opinion and most of the stupid che guevara fan boys should be bootted in the head.
    I think the greatest irony lost on all said fan boys is that here they are, proudly wearing a symbol of defiant political ideals and anti-establishment ethics on their chests ... and meanwhile profiteering capitalists are making money off of selling that image to them on T-shirts.

    Che's core message has been packaged and silkscreened, turned into capitalist profit, and adorned by thousands foolish dolts who have sold out his ideals for a T-shirt. And they advertise that fact proudly! :lol:

    Talk about not knowing when capitalism has made you its bitch...
     

    BIG DADDY!!!

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    Mar 12, 2004
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    #55
    yeh i see that. and i agree, the idea is great and if it was implemented correctly, it would be almost like eutopia. but it never works and is always twisted and mutated into something else. but i do have a problem with these communist sympathisers and che guevara lovers, first off most of them i know, know fuck all about him and two, they all act as if communism is the answer without ever looking at the history of past events.
    Guevara is a iconic figure.. Its very easy to be sympathetic for someone who died for their ideals and rightly so!!
     

    Gill_juve

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    May 29, 2006
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    #56
    Gentleman please. Whatever your politics, democracy is where the battle begins. However, fascism anti-human and even if people vote for it I would take up arms to prevent those ideals from being given any political airing.
    and i with communism. and the fact is the only real communist power to have worked to some extent was Tito's yugolsavia.
     

    Gill_juve

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    May 29, 2006
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    #57
    Guevara is a iconic figure.. Its very easy to be sympathetic for someone who died for their ideals and rightly so!!
    fair enough, everyone has their own views, but i read his book and his diary and i really just thought that he was an idiot. but if people believe what he did, good luck to you :pint:
     

    Gill_juve

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    May 29, 2006
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    #58
    When they become corrupt.
    tbh i would never support a government that would become like hitler's or mussolini's, but the fact is, they untied a nation far beyond and more successfully than any other communist regime. they were bad, but communism ran its people to the ground and subsequently, craving power , turned into the complete opposite. and we've all heard of animal farm, perfect example.
     

    Red

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    #59
    tbh i would never support a government that would become like hitler's or mussolini's, but the fact is, they untied a nation far beyond and more successfully than any other communist regime. they were bad, but communism ran its people to the ground and subsequently, craving power , turned into the complete opposite. and we've all heard of animal farm, perfect example.
    It would be very difficult to tell what a party would do once it was in power and with the nation behind it.

    There is no place for extreme politics in the world today, though it would be more interesting that what we have in Britain with everyone fighting over the middle ground.
     

    Gill_juve

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    May 29, 2006
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    It would be very difficult to tell what a party would do once it was in power and with the nation behind it.

    There is no place for extreme politics in the world today, though it would be more interesting that what we have in Britain with everyone fighting over the middle ground.
    yeh true, and recently the borouh near where i live or constuency, recently voted in the BNP, they are getting more and more seats in parliament and it is starting to worry me, not that they are gaining more power but the consequences when they WILL clash with some of the public.
     

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