Antonio Conte (30 Viewers)

How would you rate Conte's (dis)appointment?

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Klin

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May 27, 2009
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What high expectations? These are top clubs that fire coaches regularly. If he repeats what the coaches previous to him did in terms of performance or only a slight improvement on it he is sacked. It seem you have forgotten how many coaches we went through before getting him and how easily Abramovic sacks coaches. The Inter and Milan jobs are not easy in any way and thats why every season they change one or two coaches.

You make it sound like he is coaching Arsenal. Chelsea is more cut-through than any club in England. The only worse top club at this are Madrid.
Previous Juve and Chelsea coaches were fired before appointing Conte because the respective squads under-performed under their tenure, not because they simply had a shit squad. Chelsea last season is a perfect example to this. They practically have the same squad this season and look where they are. Obviously Conte is a better manager than the current Mourninho, Zaccheroni, Delneri, etc, but what I'm saying is that he very much knows what he's doing before accepting to take on a Managerial role at a club. It wasn't really an impossible objective finishing top 4 in the EPL with that squad he has.
 

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Hist

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Jan 18, 2009
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Previous Juve and Chelsea coaches were fired before appointing Conte because the respective squads under-performed under their tenure, not because they simply had a shit squad. Chelsea last season is a perfect example to this. They practically have the same squad this season and look where they are. Obviously Conte is a better manager than the current Mourninho, Zaccheroni, Delneri, etc, but what I'm saying is that he very much knows what he's doing before accepting to take on a Managerial role at a club. It wasn't really an impossible objective finishing top 4 in the EPL with that squad he has.
not impossible but obviously a tough job as Klopp, Mou, Pep and Wenger are finding out. Not a walk in the park the way you made it seem by calling it a pussy move. You were exaggerating and you know it.

Also I am interested to know which jobs are not pussy moves on your books. Who should he have coached to be considered courageous or not at least not a pussy? Bayern? PSG?

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Buffon, Barzagli, Bonucci, Chiellini, De Rossi, Candreva, Florenzi, Insigne... yeah no
so our back 4 and a bunch of mediocres or semi reliable players like Candreva.
 

pitbull

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Jul 26, 2007
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not impossible but obviously a tough job as Klopp, Mou, Pep and Wenger are finding out. Not a walk in the park the way you made it seem by calling it a pussy move. You were exaggerating and you know it.

Also I am interested to know which jobs are not pussy moves on your books. Who should he have coached to be considered courageous or not at least not a pussy? Bayern? PSG?

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so our back 4 and a bunch of mediocres or semi reliable players like Candreva.
best defense in the world, 33yo DM and 3 guys with market value ~30m, it's almost as bad as Italy 2010
 

PhRoZeN

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Mar 29, 2006
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not impossible but obviously a tough job as Klopp, Mou, Pep and Wenger are finding out. Not a walk in the park the way you made it seem by calling it a pussy move. You were exaggerating and you know it.

Also I am interested to know which jobs are not pussy moves on your books. Who should he have coached to be considered courageous or not at least not a pussy? Bayern? PSG?
Thats a good point, what should also be taken into consideration is if Conte was offered other jobs. Ancelotti to Bayern was confirmed as early as december 2015. Rather than hanging around and waiting for job offers, Conte had chosen his team by April 2016. PSG may have been available but thats all. Spanish clubs can be ruled out. Chelsea was the best option for Conte and vice versa. The only other club was United and had he been succesful there then even that would been considered as a "walk in a park".
 

piotrr

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Sep 13, 2011
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Thats a good point, what should also be taken into consideration is if Conte was offered other jobs. Ancelotti to Bayern was confirmed as early as december 2015. Rather than hanging around and waiting for job offers, Conte had chosen his team by April 2016. PSG may have been available but thats all. Spanish clubs can be ruled out. Chelsea was the best option for Conte and vice versa. The only other club was United and had he been succesful there then even that would been considered as a "walk in a park".
edit this post one more time motherfucker

 

zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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Klin

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May 27, 2009
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not impossible but obviously a tough job as Klopp, Mou, Pep and Wenger are finding out. Not a walk in the park the way you made it seem by calling it a pussy move. You were exaggerating and you know it.

Also I am interested to know which jobs are not pussy moves on your books. Who should he have coached to be considered courageous or not at least not a pussy? Bayern? PSG?
First of all, LOL at the bolded part.

You're thinking just abut the Chelsea job. I'm considering his 3 jobs in the last 5 years. There's an obvious pattern.
 

Badass J Elkann

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Feb 12, 2006
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Buffon, Barzagli, Bonucci, Chiellini, De Rossi, Candreva, Florenzi, Insigne... yeah no
This was on paper branded the worst italy side in 50 years, the team had the likes of Eder, Pelle, Giaccherini, Parolo, zaza, ogbonna, sturaro and motta ffs!

No manager in the world would have done as well as Conte did with that Italy side in the Euros, absolutely none what so ever, not even Allegri I'm sorry to say
 

zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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This was on paper branded the worst italy side in 50 years, the team had the likes of Eder, Pelle, Giaccherini, Parolo, zaza, ogbonna, sturaro and motta ffs!

No manager in the world would have done as well as Conte did with that Italy side in the Euros, absolutely none what so ever, not even Allegri I'm sorry to say
same question to you as to everyone, how many teams had a better team on paper than Italy?

and ofcourse they are coaches tht would have gone further. Santos won the whole thing with an inferior team, Wales coach got to the semifinal. you just have to pick the best roster possible, find a formation that brings the most out of your best players, and play it smart in the group stage.
 

Snobist

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same question to you as to everyone, how many teams had a better team on paper than Italy?

and ofcourse they are coaches tht would have gone further. Santos won the whole thing with an inferior team, Wales coach got to the semifinal. you just have to pick the best roster possible, find a formation that brings the most out of your best players, and play it smart in the group stage.
Why bother to reply to a name like that. Badass Dybala :lol: there are so many badasses in our team, Mario, Giorgio, Bonucci, and he picks Dybala hahahahahahhhhahhh
 

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