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I think that after breaking several records during three seasons, and taking the team from 7th to the most dominant team in Italy gives Conte the right to voice his opinion. I agree with most here that Conte has really got it wrong in cup competitions and has made some very questionable decisions. But I also think in many cases, we are extremely unlucky and even teams that spend over a billion euros can fail to make it to the CL final in 10 years. The Champions League is a competition where to really judge a team, you need to look at their results over several years. 2 is really not enough due to variance.
I'm not going to judge Conte's Cl runs because there haven't been enough of them. One of the main things I hate about football experts, fans, and really, anyone involved in the game is how quick they are to make judgements.
Coaches get fired after having a bad year. Sometimes, even less. It's ridiculous. All I can say about this Juve is that we're a very tough side to beat and we have the quality to go far in any competition. However, all we're missing is some more flair in attack. We can still be too slow going forward and at times very predictable. If you take away pogba and pirlo from this team, you'll see how little imagination we have.
I get why Conte is complaining, we are a very good team but does anyone think this team can go all the way to the final? We need to make a big leap forward and this is the right time. We've dominated Italy, and now, to compete in Europe we need to sign the Hazards and Costas of the world, not the Osvaldos and Cercis. We need to take risks to do that, and I would be so disappointed if at the end of the summer, we don't sign a huge name that make a difference. I'm not complaining by the way, I'm so thrilled to see Juve dominate Serie A lije this, but I want to see that CL trophy in Turin, and it ain't comin for cheap.
I'm not going to judge Conte's Cl runs because there haven't been enough of them. One of the main things I hate about football experts, fans, and really, anyone involved in the game is how quick they are to make judgements.
Coaches get fired after having a bad year. Sometimes, even less. It's ridiculous. All I can say about this Juve is that we're a very tough side to beat and we have the quality to go far in any competition. However, all we're missing is some more flair in attack. We can still be too slow going forward and at times very predictable. If you take away pogba and pirlo from this team, you'll see how little imagination we have.
I get why Conte is complaining, we are a very good team but does anyone think this team can go all the way to the final? We need to make a big leap forward and this is the right time. We've dominated Italy, and now, to compete in Europe we need to sign the Hazards and Costas of the world, not the Osvaldos and Cercis. We need to take risks to do that, and I would be so disappointed if at the end of the summer, we don't sign a huge name that make a difference. I'm not complaining by the way, I'm so thrilled to see Juve dominate Serie A lije this, but I want to see that CL trophy in Turin, and it ain't comin for cheap.
Spot on.
I am a huge Conte fan, but this drama he creates at the end of every season is beyond irritating, and very disrespectful to his players, the fans and also the board. If he thinks that he can't improve as a manager with this team, and that Agnelli/Marotta etc aren't ambitious and don't want us to succeed in Europe, well then, maybe it is best he leaves and then sees how unforgiving some other top clubs in Europe are when it comes to failing in Europe.
I am a huge Conte fan, but this drama he creates at the end of every season is beyond irritating, and very disrespectful to his players, the fans and also the board. If he thinks that he can't improve as a manager with this team, and that Agnelli/Marotta etc aren't ambitious and don't want us to succeed in Europe, well then, maybe it is best he leaves and then sees how unforgiving some other top clubs in Europe are when it comes to failing in Europe.
I agree with you... but i think no one on their sane mind would ask conte to go gung ho smashing everyone in the CL and getting the trophy home. Thats madness, its fantasy. Lets be real. The CL is a prize that a few teams have the honor of winning. You not only need money and good players, but even luck sometimes.
But theres the thing... its also very true that you have to chase your own luck, and i feel that we are not tryng to do this in our games. IM talking about how we present ourselves and how we play. Is nto about getting to semis or QF.. is about how we play what really irks me. I dont mind even going out in the group stages...as long as we get out like Napoli did this season... fighting till the very last moment and doing anything humanly possible to get to the enxt phase... but still was not enought. Their tears were the tears of players who knew that destiny fuked them up, but it was nto their fault.
We on the other hand...... embarrasing.
But theres the thing... its also very true that you have to chase your own luck, and i feel that we are not tryng to do this in our games. IM talking about how we present ourselves and how we play. Is nto about getting to semis or QF.. is about how we play what really irks me. I dont mind even going out in the group stages...as long as we get out like Napoli did this season... fighting till the very last moment and doing anything humanly possible to get to the enxt phase... but still was not enought. Their tears were the tears of players who knew that destiny fuked them up, but it was nto their fault.
We on the other hand...... embarrasing.
I get this, but why did we bring the likes of Peluso, Padoin or Ogbonna. The first 2 were brought after Conte's instructions iirc and yet he rarely uses them. They're shite, but hasn't he known that before? Someone said that it's better if Conte gets more to say regarding transfers, but I cannot agree with that. We've seen players like Borrielo, or Osvaldo that also were acquired after Conte's request, and once again they were utter crap. Everyone seems to knew that and it irked quite a few when Borigoal would get a chance ahead of Matri or Quag, but still Conte saw something in him and I'm sure if it went his way we'd have Boriello right now. Same goes for Osvaldo, there are strong rumors that Conte wants to make his move permanent. IMHO he should tell Marotta specifications, what kind of player for his system he'd like and Great man will deliver, like always.
Simple... they were getting older, were cheap, low wages and we needed more players... we were lucky this season with injuries... i remember we fielded an 18 year old Sorensen because of all the injuries we had in that season... now we could field a player with serie A experience if we had an injury or two on that part of the pitch...
Peluso and Padoin>> primavera i think.... because they know how it is to play in the Serie A and so on...
Peluso and Padoin>> primavera i think.... because they know how it is to play in the Serie A and so on...
Both peluso and Padoin were signed for rotation, they are decent experienced serie a players, whenever our leaders are tired, especially after European midweeks, you should use padoins instead of them, while conte has changed his mind and forgot the "rotation" word in this season, I still don't get it - what he point to use almost the same line up against Benfica, then against sassuolo in 4 days and then again against Benfica and it's a mistake but conte doesn't want to apologize for his mistakes, he does want to blame anyone but him
Somewhat agree, but he still should have used these guy more often, at least against minnows. Padoin and Peluso had 1500 minutes to share between themselves, too few imho, less than 10 games for each.
GdS and La Stampa believe that there's a minimum chance of Conte staying. Next Thursday there will be a decisive meeting. Agnelli wants Klopp as replacement. Emery and Montella another possibilities.
GdS and La Stampa believe that there's a minimum chance of Conte staying. Next Thursday there will be a decisive meeting. Agnelli wants Klopp as replacement. Emery and Montella another possibilities.
Do you remember how we lost to Gala? It gives the phrase 'Truth is stranger than fiction' a whole new meaning. Against Copen, we should have won, but I don't blame Conte. I only will blame the coach when our tactics or choice of players were very off. I don't recall too many of those and if anyone does, remember that in retrospect everything is easy. In the last two years, and many people hate to admit it, we lost in the CL mainly because our players couldn't step to the plate.
We have great players now but let's be honest, the quality of football in Serie A is very poor. Yes, we have 99 points and it's truly amazing, but the deteriorating quality of the league unfortunately takes away a bit of value from our amazing achievement.
Personally, I'm glad Conte is acting like a prick. We need someone to overlook our domestic achievements and compare us to Elite European Standard. I don't care if we're so much better than Milan and Inter. I don't even care if we're better than both teams combined, I want us to better than the very best. Better than Barca, Bayern, Real etc... And a lot of people should realize by now that there's a pretty fucking good correlation Between spending money and being successful.
What irritates me is that we're so close to being the best. We really are. I see how some mega rich clubs are managed and how they have no identity, core, project and they still get results just because they can afford to throw money around.
It makes me wonder how great we can be if we dug deep into our pockets and put some faith in ourselves to make it happen.
We have great players now but let's be honest, the quality of football in Serie A is very poor. Yes, we have 99 points and it's truly amazing, but the deteriorating quality of the league unfortunately takes away a bit of value from our amazing achievement.
Personally, I'm glad Conte is acting like a prick. We need someone to overlook our domestic achievements and compare us to Elite European Standard. I don't care if we're so much better than Milan and Inter. I don't even care if we're better than both teams combined, I want us to better than the very best. Better than Barca, Bayern, Real etc... And a lot of people should realize by now that there's a pretty fucking good correlation Between spending money and being successful.
What irritates me is that we're so close to being the best. We really are. I see how some mega rich clubs are managed and how they have no identity, core, project and they still get results just because they can afford to throw money around.
It makes me wonder how great we can be if we dug deep into our pockets and put some faith in ourselves to make it happen.
You guys talk about how Marotta provides only what Conte but here's how i picture the situation :
Conte : Beppe,give me a Lb, one who can defend and cross well.
: Boss,we have already spent most of our budged on other additions so i am not sure i can give you a quality addition.
Conte : Sigh.Ok,then the least u can do is get me players im familiar with.Get me Peluso from Atalanta.That shud be 'cheap' i guess.
: That shudnt be a problem at all boss.Im experd at signing mediocre italiens afterall.
Thanks for making my job easier boss
Conte : Beppe,give me a Lb, one who can defend and cross well.
: Boss,we have already spent most of our budged on other additions so i am not sure i can give you a quality addition.Conte : Sigh.Ok,then the least u can do is get me players im familiar with.Get me Peluso from Atalanta.That shud be 'cheap' i guess.
: That shudnt be a problem at all boss.Im experd at signing mediocre italiens afterall.Thanks for making my job easier boss
