Antonio Conte (115 Viewers)

How would you rate Conte's (dis)appointment?

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JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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thats bc its not about this game in particular, but the season as a whole. the game tonigh and the result was ok, but also bc madrid was happy with the way things where going. for me what stood out was the way chillini gave away a penalty at very important time, totally unneccesary. there is something very wrong with the mentallity of this team, when stupied things keeps happening game after game.
Sometimes when you encounter one mental issue it leads to another once results turn, we go from lazy to stupid trying to correct it. We just need to get back to our normal level of football.
 

napoleonic

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Sep 7, 2010
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That offcourse doesnt quite world as intended, and i've told you many times in the past to not bother with tacics, as you are clueless
Notice how Pogba started slotting into the CF position at times during our forays forward, or at least as a target man.
:lol: yes, tactical genius move is when you need your CM to be a target man because you removed your best target man before while still keeping a midfield liability for a while.
 

Badass J Elkann

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Feb 12, 2006
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:lol: yes, tactical genius move is when you need your CM to be a target man because you removed your best target man before while still keeping a midfield liability for a while.
play a relatively static forward, or play a mobile midfielder who provides the same physical presence in a game we are chasing with 10 men? logic would say go with the midfielder, it's not like pogba is incapable of scoring, no less so then Llorente
 

fredrik

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Aug 7, 2011
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caceres was rocksolid apart from the mistake on the offside trap. 4 months without a game cause injured does that to you

Chiellini beeing a dumbass, second goal

referee beeing a dumbass, red card


at the same time, team playing brilliant


where in all this is any blame to conte ?

the team has been suffering the whole season...even if we usually have gotten the results in serie a. the squad and conte is not working like it should. the results in cl is beyond any exuse. lapses in consentration and individual mistakes have been happening on a regular basis. when so many players are playing below par and acting like they are, thats a managers job to fix. had our players not been fools we could have won tonights game. mentally juve where never gonna recover from the pk. vidal was 1mm from beeing sent of a number of times, and propably would have, hadnt chillini been red carded. juve where never brilliant this game, and pp should not be satisfied with loosing 2-1 just bc we played w 10 men and they are called madrid. madrid were very poor tonight and once again we let it slip.
 

JuveJay

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:lol: yes, tactical genius move is when you need your CM to be a target man because you removed your best target man before while still keeping a midfield liability for a while.
Already said why Llorente went off. Plenty of managers have used tall non-strikers as a target man before, and it was only on occasion, as our attacks mostly centred on getting the ball into wide areas.
 

JCK

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May 11, 2004
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the team has been suffering the whole season...even if we usually have gotten the results in serie a. the squad and conte is not working like it should. the results in cl is beyond any exuse. lapses in consentration and individual mistakes have been happening on a regular basis. when so many players are playing below par and acting like they are, thats a managers job to fix. had our players not been fools we could have won tonights game. mentally juve where never gonna recover from the pk. vidal was 1mm from beeing sent of a number of times, and propably would have, hadnt chillini been red carded. juve where never brilliant this game, and pp should not be satisfied with loosing 2-1 just bc we played w 10 men and they are called madrid. madrid were very poor tonight and once again we let it slip.
:tup:
 

napoleonic

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play a relatively static forward, or play a mobile midfielder who provides the same physical presence in a game we are chasing with 10 men? logic would say go with the midfielder, it's not like pogba is incapable of scoring, no less so then Llorente
but conte didn't sub out llorente for pogba :sergio: he should've subbed out pirlo for bonucci and told tevez to drop further behind to cover the midfield, we know tevez is at very least as good as pirlo at pressing and defending.

when juve tried to attack, we can definitely see that llorente+pogba would give real more troubles physically than just pogba alone.

:sergio:
 

Badass J Elkann

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Feb 12, 2006
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but conte didn't sub out llorente for pogba :sergio: he should've subbed out pirlo for bonucci and told tevez to drop further behind to cover the midfield, we know tevez is at very least as good as pirlo at pressing and defending.

when juve tried to attack, we can definitely see that llorente+pogba would give real more troubles physically than just pogba alone.

:sergio:
say what???? if anything pressing and defending are Pirlo's weaknesses, Tevez on the other hand is our hardest worker in pressing and defends better than Pirlo through his pressing
 

Hydde

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Mar 6, 2003
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This game should been seen as a positive. Conte changed things up and we played our best football this season and probably even better than last but with the help of the ref and our non clinical strikers we managed to make it 100x more difficult for us. All in all I praise Conte and hope he continues to experiment with this formation
wel at least he tried another option instead of his insta 352.

Lets hope this will open his head and realize he can indeed tweaks things a little
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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the team has been suffering the whole season...even if we usually have gotten the results in serie a. the squad and conte is not working like it should. the results in cl is beyond any exuse. lapses in consentration and individual mistakes have been happening on a regular basis. when so many players are playing below par and acting like they are, thats a managers job to fix. had our players not been fools we could have won tonights game. mentally juve where never gonna recover from the pk. vidal was 1mm from beeing sent of a number of times, and propably would have, hadnt chillini been red carded. juve where never brilliant this game, and pp should not be satisfied with loosing 2-1 just bc we played w 10 men and they are called madrid. madrid were very poor tonight and once again we let it slip.
jesus fucking christ, jack alone is enough, what the fuck is up with you also ion this depressive shit thats mostly dead wrong ?

you got 1 thing right. untill this game, many players are not in form. Well tough luck, a coach can only do that much about that.

-The reason real "was bad" was because we tactically shut em down. plain simple
- The fact juve tactically neutralised real and while with 11 players, the better team, at bernabeu, is brilliant.
- Never recover ? lol and how about pogba's chance right after the restart ?
- juve got shafted by the ref, and with 10 still managed to even the game. yes thats pretty good. AT THE BERNABEU


seriously, gtfo

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but conte didn't sub out llorente for pogba :sergio: he should've subbed out pirlo for bonucci and told tevez to drop further behind to cover the midfield, we know tevez is at very least as good as pirlo at pressing and defending.

when juve tried to attack, we can definitely see that llorente+pogba would give real more troubles physically than just pogba alone.

:sergio:
You are a fucking joke. please, i'm doing, stop it.


Pirlo, basically playing in front of the defence, cutting off the CAM and benzema for direct passing exchanges, and quickly setting up any counter we did.

yeah, remove him. create a gab to fill between pogba and vidal, so they'll play closer, and allowing the real wingers to reign on the wing.

Solution "let tevez play a bit deeper". Yeah sure. tevez is an agressive runner. But he knows shit about midfield positionning and how to cut off passing/running lines. especially compated to a strategist like pirlo.

Jesus man, wait a bit for the next shot or i die right here

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put it like this. Our midfield was what kept us in the game.

we preserved that 3-1 at all time. if we didnt do that, gaynaldo and bale would just start linking with the cam/st, and score like 7 goals just as they do in spain.
 

.zero

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Aug 8, 2006
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Who does success/failure fall upon? Individual players? The board, medics?

I'm not asking for his head, but criticism is definitely warranted and has been for the early part of this season.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Who does success/failure fall upon? Individual players? The board, medics?

I'm not asking for his head, but criticism is definitely warranted and has been for the early part of this season.
You are mad. Doesnt understand football very well, yet want to ventillate it.

I understand, but you are pointing in the wrong direction
 

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