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Linebreak

Senior Member
Sep 18, 2009
16,022
Conte's actions were disrespectful and lacked foresight.

We could have limited the damage to 2 points lost but his actions, and the players actions, which he of course supported wittingly or not, could now mean that we lost more points unnecessarily.

Conte should know better than blaming the ref for not awarding a penalty - he should look at his team's efforts of late, their defensive performance, their lack of finishing abilities, and most importantly, he should be looking square at himself in the mirror for his weak tactics this year. The ref is not at fault for any of these things, he is simply an excuse for our own shortcomings.

Conte's success first season in charge was close to miraculous, be he should never allow the success to get to his head and make him believe he can act as he pleases and more importantly, as though it's okay to set a bad example for the players and the entire Juventus club.
 

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Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
armchair specialists :

admire conte for beeing passionate and giving determination to the team
blasting conte for beeing passionate and going against the disgusting referee after the game

armchair fans, armchair fans everywere
why dont you just sftu
 

Linebreak

Senior Member
Sep 18, 2009
16,022
I can't believe some people would play 3 man defense with only one proper cb, who's close to 4th yellow too. Some people see Conte as god who never makes mistakes and turn off their brains I guess. He's done a lot of mistakes lately and it's only our fault we're in mess like that right now. Playing players out of position, putting a fresh lb as cb in his very first days here and also playing two wingers in 2-man attack. Lack of will, slow buildup play and long balls on Quag / Giovinco alla Del Neri days.

It's time to get back to what gave us our strength last season. High pressing with wingers who do a lot of work (4-4-2 or 4-3-3) and playing the ball faster on the ground instead of Bonucci's long balls. This team has to wake up as a unit and kill opposition with aggression and will to win. If someone is tired or can't make it just bench him. It's not like there's somebody who deserves starting spot right now.

Lol @ people who prefer to play 3 man defense with Marrone over Isla as RWF.
+rep

This post is spot on!
 

Tak!

Senior Member
Jun 23, 2011
4,176
Conte's actions were disrespectful and lacked foresight.

We could have limited the damage to 2 points lost but his actions, and the players actions, which he of course supported wittingly or not, could now mean that we lost more points unnecessarily.

Conte should know better than blaming the ref for not awarding a penalty - he should look at his team's efforts of late, their defensive performance, their lack of finishing abilities, and most importantly, he should be looking square at himself in the mirror for his weak tactics this year. The ref is not at fault for any of these things, he is simply an excuse for our own shortcomings.

Conte's success first season in charge was close to miraculous, be he should never allow the success to get to his head and make him believe he can act as he pleases and more importantly, as though it's okay to set a bad example for the players and the entire Juventus club.
:tup:
 

X Æ A-12

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Contributor
Sep 4, 2006
87,934
Considering the shit he's been put through with suspensions, threats of more bogus charges, and that his team regularly suffer from these refereeing errors I'd say that Conte actually does a good job of keeping his cool. As Zach said we all admire conte's passion, when we win, but now?

I understand and sympathize with his frustration at being robbed last weekend and am behind him 100%.
 

Linebreak

Senior Member
Sep 18, 2009
16,022
armchair specialists :

admire conte for beeing passionate and giving determination to the team
blasting conte for beeing passionate and going against the disgusting referee after the game

armchair fans, armchair fans everywere
why dont you just sftu
If we were to stfu then there's no point in having a forum in the first place :)
 

K.O.

Senior Member
Nov 24, 2005
13,883
Considering the $#@! he's been put through with suspensions, threats of more bogus charges, and that his team regularly suffer from these refereeing errors I'd say that Conte actually does a good job of keeping his cool. As Zach said we all admire conte's passion, when we win, but now?

I understand and sympathize with his frustration at being robbed last weekend and am behind him 100%.
Now that is spot on.
 

Linebreak

Senior Member
Sep 18, 2009
16,022
Considering the $#@! he's been put through with suspensions, threats of more bogus charges, and that his team regularly suffer from these refereeing errors I'd say that Conte actually does a good job of keeping his cool. As Zach said we all admire conte's passion, when we win, but now?

I understand and sympathize with his frustration at being robbed last weekend and am behind him 100%.
Relying on a last minute penalty to win a match against an opponent we should put away in the first half is robbing ourselves of reality.

With our records on penalties this season, we probably would have missed it anyway.
 

Klin

نحن الروبوتات
May 27, 2009
61,692
Relying on a last minute penalty to win a match against an opponent we should put away in the first half is robbing ourselves of reality.

With our records on penalties this season, we probably would have missed it anyway.
We haven't been having the best of performances lately, but I am still of the opinion that rules are there to be followed, and if that was a hands ball insider their box, it should have been a penalty for us, irrelevant if our performance was good or bad. But that's me.
 

Linebreak

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Sep 18, 2009
16,022
We haven't been having the best of performances lately, but I am still of the opinion that rules are there to be followed, and if that was a hands ball insider their box, it should have been a penalty for us, irrelevant if our performance was good or bad. But that's me.
The penalty itself was contentious in that it may have deflected off his foot straight to his hand which could be interpreted as unavoidable. Every season there are good and bad calls - one should not allow these calls to be the defining moment of their season like Milan did last year and ended up frustrating themselves out of the championship race.
 

Klin

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May 27, 2009
61,692
The penalty itself was contentious in that it may have deflected off his foot straight to his hand which could be interpreted as unavoidable. Every season there are good and bad calls - one should not allow these calls to be the defining moment of their season like Milan did last year and ended up frustrating themselves out of the championship race.
It was a penalty. It hit his hand because he was clumsy with the clearance. Always a penalty.

And why do you think this incident will be defining our season? We needed to make a point and we made it.
 

X Æ A-12

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Sep 4, 2006
87,934
Relying on a last minute penalty to win a match against an opponent we should put away in the first half is robbing ourselves of reality.

With our records on penalties this season, we probably would have missed it anyway.
Well I don't disagree with any of that, i was addressing your criticism of Conte's reaction.
 

Linebreak

Senior Member
Sep 18, 2009
16,022
Well I don't disagree with any of that, i was addressing your criticism of Conte's reaction.
Overreacted because 2013 has been bad for us, and only the Genoa game could be blamed on the ref.

If we had won against Parma and Sampdoria, like we should have, we would have not seen such reactions for Conte and the team.

Don't get me wrong Conte is the boss and I absolutely love him and his leadership, but his reactions last game set a bad example for the entire club. It was more of a classless Inter-Merda reaction, not Juve worthy.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
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I was more annoyed with Marotta's reaction than Conte's TBH.

Every single coach in the world would have lost the plot like that after the ref missed a 100% penalty in the last second of a game. And also the ref telling Conte he didn't "feel like" giving us a penalty didnt help.
 

FlavioJuve

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Jun 6, 2007
4,684
Considering the $#@! he's been put through with suspensions, threats of more bogus charges, and that his team regularly suffer from these refereeing errors I'd say that Conte actually does a good job of keeping his cool. As Zach said we all admire conte's passion, when we win, but now?

I understand and sympathize with his frustration at being robbed last weekend and am behind him 100%.
This
 

Klin

نحن الروبوتات
May 27, 2009
61,692
I was more annoyed with Marotta's reaction than Conte's TBH.

Every single coach in the world would have lost the plot like that after the ref missed a 100% penalty in the last second of a game. And also the ref telling Conte he didn't "feel like" giving us a penalty didnt help.
This.
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,382
I was more annoyed with Marotta's reaction than Conte's TBH.

Every single coach in the world would have lost the plot like that after the ref missed a 100% penalty in the last second of a game. And also the ref telling Conte he didn't "feel like" giving us a penalty didnt help.
There was this guy on Twitter who tried to emulate what Agnelli would have said, and I think he hit the bulls eye.

Agnelli - Penalties not given? I don't know, all I know is that we should have won 3-1.
 

Linebreak

Senior Member
Sep 18, 2009
16,022
I was more annoyed with Marotta's reaction than Conte's TBH.

Every single coach in the world would have lost the plot like that after the ref missed a 100% penalty in the last second of a game. And also the ref telling Conte he didn't "feel like" giving us a penalty didnt help.
Agreed. Marotta's comments were uncalled for and ill-conceived.

The ref would have only said that after Conte came bolting onto the field towards him with his entourage, as a reaction to the situation.

The ref was a toothless moron no doubt, but Conte's behaviour counts. You watch our players start to complain about every call for games going forward.

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There was this guy on Twitter who tried to emulate what Agnelli would have said, and I think he hit the bulls eye.

Agnelli - Penalties not given? I don't know, all I know is that we should have won 3-1.
That's what you call a pure class reaction.
 

Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
Relying on a last minute penalty to win a match against an opponent we should put away in the first half is robbing ourselves of reality.

With our records on penalties this season, we probably would have missed it anyway.
:agree:

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Conte's actions were disrespectful and lacked foresight.

We could have limited the damage to 2 points lost but his actions, and the players actions, which he of course supported wittingly or not, could now mean that we lost more points unnecessarily.

Conte should know better than blaming the ref for not awarding a penalty - he should look at his team's efforts of late, their defensive performance, their lack of finishing abilities, and most importantly, he should be looking square at himself in the mirror for his weak tactics this year. The ref is not at fault for any of these things, he is simply an excuse for our own shortcomings.

Conte's success first season in charge was close to miraculous, be he should never allow the success to get to his head and make him believe he can act as he pleases and more importantly, as though it's okay to set a bad example for the players and the entire Juventus club.
This.
 

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