Antonio Conte (177 Viewers)

How would you rate Conte's (dis)appointment?

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swag

L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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I'm not saying we should let it pass completely, but we should go about it through different channels than whining about it to the newspapers. There isn't any data suggesting that actually helps.
This is Italy. This is the land where the greasy Luca Toni rolls on the ground and puts his hands in the air whether he's fouled or not. The cultural expectation is that if you don't whine and complain, you're excusing yourself of the right to an aggrievance. You are presumed complicit with the "fairness" of the situation.

What? I'm not saying this is Calciopoli, but you think we should bend over? All the big teams in Europe complain, in Spain and England they even complain when the ref is right.
Calciopoli has everything to do with it. Calciopoli was the product of people whining about fairness in the newspapers, for crying out loud. If you have to defend yourself, you have to defend yourself in the newspapers. It's that basic. It's a shitty game, but it's a cultural institution where everyone either plays or becomes the victim of it.

The idiotic logic being that if you aren't pointing out reasons to complain, you're likely the beneficiary of a lot of sketchy calls. Hence: calciopoli. So turning the other cheek and keeping a stiff upper lip sounds so fabulously honorable. But it burned us in 2006.
 

Jem83

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Nov 7, 2005
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The silenzio stampa thing is a point, but not as big as you make it out to be. Do you guys honestly believe that Calciopoli hadn't happened if we had been talking to the newspapers more? Come on.
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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Even if people think a rant like this was called for or that it makes the refs stand up and take notice, while I am completely against this, I'd also like to point out that the rant probably was timed as badly as possible. On a night when we had absolutely no credible claim for one. That was the most important factor IMO. Because replays will clearly show that we are whining about non existent penalties in a game we should've won on our own but couldn't. If this rant had to come, it should've come on another day when these words would've held a little more weight and credibility.
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Kicked? Pirlo did a Tiago out there yesterday. He could've won an award in Ballet with that.

We have a case on Giaccherini's foul though.
And they have a case for Gio's foul. Ref could have easily called it both ways. No one was singled out last night. If that is the case then Parma could have easily complained last night and have had the same damn case. What makes our appeal hold water and not theirs?
 

K.O.

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Nov 24, 2005
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Ranieri's a piece of shit. Such a fucking loser.

Mourinho complains about referees after every match, he's still a winner, so is Conte
 

Jem83

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Nov 7, 2005
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Indeed, Conte's a great man and a winner, no one's denying that. But you don't have to complain in order to be a winner.

And Ranieri can suck it.
 

swag

L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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The silenzio stampa thing is a point, but not as big as you make it out to be. Do you guys honestly believe that Calciopoli hadn't happened if we had been talking to the newspapers more? Come on.
If mani puliti were to happen and there's no la pubblicità, does it really exist?

Hell, after what we've been through, we should be rubbing everyone's faces in it. :pado: Dubious ref calls happen all the time. But only one team ever got punished for it anything close to what we got: Juve.
 

Trezegol17

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Nov 1, 2006
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That's because we should not need penaltys to win a game, we are not Milan nor Inter. Ofcourse we are right to claim one but if our strikers finished theire chances there was no talk about penalties whatsoever.
 

RAMI-N

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Aug 22, 2006
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That's because we should not need penaltys to win a game, we are not Milan nor Inter. Ofcourse we are right to claim one but if our strikers finished theire chances there was no talk about penalties whatsoever.
But it happens that you play badly some games and you need something extra to win the game!
Besides the incident that led to the PK was a certain goal had the foul not been made.
 

Trezegol17

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Nov 1, 2006
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RAMI¹⁰;3521134 said:
But it happens that you play badly some games and you need something extra to win the game!
Besides the incident that led to the PK was a certain goal had the foul not been made.
Says who? I saw them missing bigger chances, it's a lame excuse to blame the ref for not giving a penalty, need something extra? How about scoring a goal when you get 5/6 decent scoring chances?
 
May 4, 2004
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I think there was a clear penalty on Giacc.. Pirlo was kicked from behind but I do agree that he should have finished insted of falling that easy.. And Giovinco woud have got the penalty kick if he fell the time where Barzagli had both hands on him!
 

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