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How would you rate Conte's (dis)appointment?

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Aug 27, 2010
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Whether like it or not out of all the options that have been proposed he is the only manager who can get our broken train back on track . This team needs to rebuild to become a major contender in the league again.
I like it if he comes back, but somehow dont believe it. Damn, i would love if both Conte and Marotta would come back here.
 

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Nov 1, 2013
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Actually, I think Giuntoli is a great match for Conte. He spends freely and gets transfers done without dragging things out—unlike Marotta, who would haggle until the very last day of the window. Giuntoli usually manages to sign most of his targets. For example, last year they said from the start that he wanted Koopmeiners, Douglas Luiz, Di Gregorio... he ended up signing all of them. With Marotta, we’d start with names like Aguero and Van Persie and end up with Osvaldo. Sure, Giuntoli’s signings haven’t delivered, but he’s not a rigid or overly controlling director. In fact, I think he could work really well with Conte. And I think if Conte gives him a solid transfer list, Giuntoli might actually be able to make some good signings for him.
Overall, I think Giuntoli is actually a capable director when it comes to negotiating with clubs and getting deals done. He knows how to achieve his transfer goals. His main issue, in my opinion, is that he needs someone to give him the right targets. Unlike Marotta, who was pretty much useless in transfer negotiations, he either signed free agents or just paid release clauses. All in all, I feel like Conte would be much more comfortable working with someone like Giuntoli than with guys like Marotta or De Laurentis.
 
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Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
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Actually, I think Giuntoli is a great match for Conte. He spends freely and gets transfers done without dragging things out—unlike Marotta, who would haggle until the very last day of the window. Giuntoli usually manages to sign most of his targets. For example, last year they said from the start that he wanted Koopmeiners, Douglas Luiz, Di Gregorio... he ended up signing all of them. With Marotta, we’d start with names like Aguero and Van Persie and end up with Osvaldo. Sure, Giuntoli’s signings haven’t delivered, but he’s not a rigid or overly controlling director. In fact, I think he could work really well with Conte. And I think if Conte gives him a solid transfer list, Giuntoli might actually be able to make some good signings for him.
Overall, I think Giuntoli is actually a capable director when it comes to negotiating with clubs and getting deals done. He knows how to achieve his transfer goals. His main issue, in my opinion, is that he needs someone to give him the right targets. Unlike Marotta, who was pretty much useless in transfer negotiations, he either signed free agents or just paid release clauses. All in all, I feel like Conte would be much more comfortable working with someone like Giuntoli than with guys like Marotta or De Laurentis.
Lol what???
 

Paolino

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Nov 1, 2013
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What’s so strange about it? The problem is that people here only look at the present and forget how things were before. Just last summer, everyone at Tuz was rating Giuntoli a 9 out of 10 because he managed to sign every single target on the club’s wishlist.

The fact that some of those players turned out to be flops is a different matter entirely — there are dozens of factors that contribute to that. But signing players like Koopmeiners, who was one of Atalanta’s best, Douglas Luiz, one of Villa’s top performers, or guys like Thuram and Nico, all of whom had plenty of interest from other clubs, was genuinely impressive at the time.

It was the kind of transfer window Marotta could never pull off. I honestly can’t remember a single time he managed to beat other clubs in a competitive race for a player or truly succeeded in tough negotiations and after failing to sign his top 9 targets, he’d always end up settling for option number 10.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
81,200
What’s so strange about it? The problem is that people here only look at the present and forget how things were before. Just last summer, everyone at Tuz was rating Giuntoli a 9 out of 10 because he managed to sign every single target on the club’s wishlist.

The fact that some of those players turned out to be flops is a different matter entirely — there are dozens of factors that contribute to that. But signing players like Koopmeiners, who was one of Atalanta’s best, Douglas Luiz, one of Villa’s top performers, or guys like Thuram and Nico, all of whom had plenty of interest from other clubs, was genuinely impressive at the time.

It was the kind of transfer window Marotta could never pull off. I honestly can’t remember a single time he managed to beat other clubs in a competitive race for a player or truly succeeded in tough negotiations and after failing to sign his top 9 targets, he’d always end up settling for option number 10.
Koopmeiners was signed after round 3 of the season. How exactly was he signed early? And this was after negotiating with Atalanta ALL SUMMER and still giving them the exact amount they demanded from day 1. Horrible stuff.

Not to mention the fact that he sat on his hands doing fuck all for about 6 weeks, when the club was in desperate need of new signings (then all of a sudden on one day he signs both Nico and Chico on the same day essentially).
 
Mar 16, 2013
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What’s so strange about it? The problem is that people here only look at the present and forget how things were before. Just last summer, everyone at Tuz was rating Giuntoli a 9 out of 10 because he managed to sign every single target on the club’s wishlist.

The fact that some of those players turned out to be flops is a different matter entirely — there are dozens of factors that contribute to that. But signing players like Koopmeiners, who was one of Atalanta’s best, Douglas Luiz, one of Villa’s top performers, or guys like Thuram and Nico, all of whom had plenty of interest from other clubs, was genuinely impressive at the time.

It was the kind of transfer window Marotta could never pull off. I honestly can’t remember a single time he managed to beat other clubs in a competitive race for a player or truly succeeded in tough negotiations and after failing to sign his top 9 targets, he’d always end up settling for option number 10.

Selling Huijsen at that price alone is enough to prove that Giuntoli is unfit to manage Juventus. A director at a top club like Juve should never make such a mistake. Huijsen is currently one of the best young defensive talents in the world, alongside Cubarsi—yet Barcelona wouldn’t sell Cubarsi even for €100 million- How can a director let such a talent go for just €15 million without even including a buy-back clause? It wasn’t exactly difficult to recognize Huijsen’s potential, when Mourinho praised him, took him on loan to Roma, and gave him playing time, it was already clear that he was a special talent. Mistakes like this are simply inexcusable for a club like Juve. Bringing in Motta falls into the same category of errors.
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Paolino

Senior Member
Nov 1, 2013
1,132
Koopmeiners was signed after round 3 of the season. How exactly was he signed early? And this was after negotiating with Atalanta ALL SUMMER and still giving them the exact amount they demanded from day 1. Horrible stuff.

Not to mention the fact that he sat on his hands doing fuck all for about 6 weeks, when the club was in desperate need of new signings (then all of a sudden on one day he signs both Nico and Chico on the same day essentially).
Sure, the Koopmeiners deal took time — but in the end, he still got it done. Meanwhile, with Marotta, negotiations would drag on forever too, like with Draxler or Gotze, but he’d always come back with someone like Hernanes.

That’s my point — I see Giuntoli as a director who, if Conte gives him the right list, can actually deliver and sign those players. He’s not like Marotta, who would frustrate Conte by failing to land the top 4 names on the list and then show up with Bendtner or Osvaldo instead.

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I’m not defending Giuntoli — I actually agree that he should be sacked, and his mistakes are obvious. But my point is that a director like Giuntoli might actually be a good fit for Conte, simply because he gets deals done.

Conte has always wanted a director who can go out and sign the players on his list without unnecessary complications. And like I said earlier, if Conte can manage the list properly and set the right targets, and Giuntoli focuses purely on negotiations, they could form a very effective partnership.
 

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