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Siamak

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    I have just ordered and Elephone P9000

    I really don't know what I am expecting.
     
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    JCK

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    Why???

    Meizu or Xiaomi are always better choice from chinese brands.
    I have actually cancelled the order just after I posted and looked thoroughly on Xiaomi. Meizu you say? Do they have a 5.5" display with dual SIM?
     

    Dostoevsky

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    I have just ordered and Elephone P9000

    I really don't know what I am expecting.
    I don't know about that one but P6000 was decent at best.

    Meizu and Huawei are better imo, but even the expensive versions of those bug out sometimes. I'd put Xiaomi on the third place and Elephone behind all of them.
     
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    I don't know about that one but P6000 was decent at best.

    Meizu and Huawei are better imo, but even the expensive versions of those bug out sometimes. I'd put Xiaomi on the third place and Elephone behind all of them.
    Huawei are great but are in a totally different product class otherwise I would have gotten one already.
     
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    I saw Meizu mentioned :boh: I don't think they are any different compared to Huawei but I might be wrong.
    I am sorry, I meant to say price class, they are probably the same product class but the price is a huge difference, Huawei are just a bit cheaper than Samsung.
     

    Dino_mk

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    I have actually cancelled the order just after I posted and looked thoroughly on Xiaomi. Meizu you say? Do they have a 5.5" display with dual SIM?
    Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 PRO is excellent choice in every way: procesor, battery, support, in that price range. It is 5.5" and I think it has dual SIM (second one is SD card-SIM in same time, so u can use only one of that)
    Meizu also have similar phones, if u look for 5.5" search for "Note" in their name. For example Meizu m3 note pro.
     

    s4tch

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    i own a xiaomi mi3 for 2 years and i've been a lot into chinese phones lately. my 2 cents:

    - xiaomi software support is very good. the mi3 is 3 years old, it started on miui v5 & android 4.4, now it's on miui8 and android 6, with weekly updates. there are plenty of custom roms, too. most xiaomi hardwares are cheap, but well put together, and pretty reliable. the mi note pro had some heating issues (as basically most snapdragon 810 devices), otherwise, they are good workhorses.

    - hardware-wise, meizu phones are comparable to xiaomi phones. either way, you basically get a similar chipset, ram, rom, camera, build quality for the money. flyme os and locked bootloader are my only concerns with meizu phones. (i'm looking for a phone with outstanding audio quality through the headphone jack, and meizu pro 5 is one of my top choices, the only reason i'm reluctant to pull the trigger is flyme os.) flyme is not updated as frequently as miui, also missing some basic miui features like hide contacts with no phone number from the phonebook, and meizu phones are not updated for 3+ years like xiaomi devices. the locked bootloader means you can't install custom roms, there's no community development on xda either.

    if i were about to get a dual sim chinese phone on a budget, as @Dino_mk, i'd also buy the redmi note 3. it's a solid device, easy to use out of the box (if you install a global rom), and cheap. there are several versions of it, and while it may be confusing at first sight, it's actually good news for european guys: they came out with a version lately that supports lte band 20, which is essential in europe if you're about to use 4g/lte a lot.

    what's your actual budget, @JCK? there are very few mid-range 5,5" phones that could compete with a redmi note 3, but if you're on a higher budget, either the zte axon 7 or the oneplus 3 are excellent choices.
     

    Siamak

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    i own a xiaomi mi3 for 2 years and i've been a lot into chinese phones lately. my 2 cents:

    - xiaomi software support is very good. the mi3 is 3 years old, it started on miui v5 & android 4.4, now it's on miui8 and android 6, with weekly updates. there are plenty of custom roms, too. most xiaomi hardwares are cheap, but well put together, and pretty reliable. the mi note pro had some heating issues (as basically most snapdragon 810 devices), otherwise, they are good workhorses.

    - hardware-wise, meizu phones are comparable to xiaomi phones. either way, you basically get a similar chipset, ram, rom, camera, build quality for the money. flyme os and locked bootloader are my only concerns with meizu phones. (i'm looking for a phone with outstanding audio quality through the headphone jack, and meizu pro 5 is one of my top choices, the only reason i'm reluctant to pull the trigger is flyme os.) flyme is not updated as frequently as miui, also missing some basic miui features like hide contacts with no phone number from the phonebook, and meizu phones are not updated for 3+ years like xiaomi devices. the locked bootloader means you can't install custom roms, there's no community development on xda either.

    if i were about to get a dual sim chinese phone on a budget, as @Dino_mk, i'd also buy the redmi note 3. it's a solid device, easy to use out of the box (if you install a global rom), and cheap. there are several versions of it, and while it may be confusing at first sight, it's actually good news for european guys: they came out with a version lately that supports lte band 20, which is essential in europe if you're about to use 4g/lte a lot.

    what's your actual budget, @JCK? there are very few mid-range 5,5" phones that could compete with a redmi note 3, but if you're on a higher budget, either the zte axon 7 or the oneplus 3 are excellent choices.
    it's not about Android. they just give weekly updates for Xiaomi's own framework and services.
     

    s4tch

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    Speaking of chinese phones UMI Plus has great specs and looks good.

    Only $179, too.
    software support and based on my previous experience with a couple of umi phones, build quality is questionable, though. umi is a 2nd tier chinese manufacturer.

    it's not about Android. they just give weekly updates for Xiaomi's own framework and services.
    as android is not updated so frequently, weekly updates are mostly about miui. but security updates arrive with these weekly updates (e.g. quadrooter is already addressed on most devices, while some major manufacturers still haven't released anything), and miui always have some nice features anyway that are missing from android. i'm happy with the software, it's my best device in this department, and i've already had samsung, sony, motorola, sony ericsson droids before. too bad they are locking bootloaders recently.
     
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    i own a xiaomi mi3 for 2 years and i've been a lot into chinese phones lately. my 2 cents:

    - xiaomi software support is very good. the mi3 is 3 years old, it started on miui v5 & android 4.4, now it's on miui8 and android 6, with weekly updates. there are plenty of custom roms, too. most xiaomi hardwares are cheap, but well put together, and pretty reliable. the mi note pro had some heating issues (as basically most snapdragon 810 devices), otherwise, they are good workhorses.

    - hardware-wise, meizu phones are comparable to xiaomi phones. either way, you basically get a similar chipset, ram, rom, camera, build quality for the money. flyme os and locked bootloader are my only concerns with meizu phones. (i'm looking for a phone with outstanding audio quality through the headphone jack, and meizu pro 5 is one of my top choices, the only reason i'm reluctant to pull the trigger is flyme os.) flyme is not updated as frequently as miui, also missing some basic miui features like hide contacts with no phone number from the phonebook, and meizu phones are not updated for 3+ years like xiaomi devices. the locked bootloader means you can't install custom roms, there's no community development on xda either.

    if i were about to get a dual sim chinese phone on a budget, as @Dino_mk, i'd also buy the redmi note 3. it's a solid device, easy to use out of the box (if you install a global rom), and cheap. there are several versions of it, and while it may be confusing at first sight, it's actually good news for european guys: they came out with a version lately that supports lte band 20, which is essential in europe if you're about to use 4g/lte a lot.

    what's your actual budget, @JCK? there are very few mid-range 5,5" phones that could compete with a redmi note 3, but if you're on a higher budget, either the zte axon 7 or the oneplus 3 are excellent choices.
    Thank you for your feedback. I am well aware of the Oneplus, I have had OnePlus One for around two years now and I really love it still but lately I have dropped it quite often and it has some bumps on the body, still functioning flawlessly though. The OnePlus Three is quite expensive in my opinion, not that I don't afford it but I find it silly paying that much when there are phones that are much cheaper. I woiuld say I am willing to pay up to 170 € and I am almost very convinced with the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro but there are so many versions of it that makes me confused. Do all of them have an update to Android 6? What about 4G bands? I heard that they are not compatible with all networks.
     

    s4tch

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    ...but there are so many versions of it that makes me confused. Do all of them have an update to Android 6? What about 4G bands? I heard that they are not compatible with all networks.
    all of them have 6.0 based rom.

    lte band support is confusing. look for the note 3 taiwan version, and make sure it has lte band 20 (800mhz) support listed, like these:
    http://www.honorbuy.com/919-xiaomi-redmi-note-3-pro-international-version-3gb-32gb-gold.html
    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Int...HD-2GB-16GB-64bit-Snapdragon/32683398479.html

    presentation on the official miui board:
    http://en.miui.com/thread-299743-1-1.html
     

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