Their interest, their goal, their entire existence revolves on one thing and that is to get disband Juventus from existence. So no, it is in their interest to punish us as hard as possible.
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Bad financial health not equal fraud. It means a sell-off of big players, shrinking budget and a host of other things that half the world's businesses had to do, and many are doing now in light of the recession. Fraud is not a necessary part of that.
And say just for the sake of argument that it did turn out that they too did the same "salary maneuver" and gave fake balance sheets to the stock exchange guess what that makes them.... fraudsters who would deserve to get all the penalties coming their way. I dont understand how you go from the idea that Inter might be fraudsters too to Agnelli's legacy as a legend should be kept.
Juve is a big club, the biggest club in Italy by far, owned by a huge famous family and is traded on the stock exchange. Ofc we get more attention than Napoli. Inter and Napoli get more attention than Sampdoria or Bari but thats not due to conspiracy. Its the same in every league. In every industry even outside of sports. Its part of being huge and being publicly listed. Are they even on the stock exchange? and didn't we get off the hook about plusvalenza?
If he committed fraud then fuck him and I hope he rots in prison. His family owning the football club I happen to support wont make me forgive that this billionaire couldnt keep his hands out the money pot. If anything I dislike him more because he's ruining the club I support. If 10 others clubs do it, they should all rot in prison with him. No sympathy for billionaire thieves.
And say just for the sake of argument that it did turn out that they too did the same "salary maneuver" and gave fake balance sheets to the stock exchange guess what that makes them.... fraudsters who would deserve to get all the penalties coming their way. I dont understand how you go from the idea that Inter might be fraudsters too to Agnelli's legacy as a legend should be kept.
Juve is a big club, the biggest club in Italy by far, owned by a huge famous family and is traded on the stock exchange. Ofc we get more attention than Napoli. Inter and Napoli get more attention than Sampdoria or Bari but thats not due to conspiracy. Its the same in every league. In every industry even outside of sports. Its part of being huge and being publicly listed. Are they even on the stock exchange? and didn't we get off the hook about plusvalenza?
If he committed fraud then fuck him and I hope he rots in prison. His family owning the football club I happen to support wont make me forgive that this billionaire couldnt keep his hands out the money pot. If anything I dislike him more because he's ruining the club I support. If 10 others clubs do it, they should all rot in prison with him. No sympathy for billionaire thieves.
Ofcourse. We are publicly listed company. SEC monitors this kinda thing intensely in the US. Thats why this is different its not merely a sporting courts issue. I think he is potentially more in trouble than Juve.
The way I see it (if the charges stick) is I have no sympathy for a billionaire CEO defrauding investors and would want them punished if guilty, no different than any CEO or CFO like these guys https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2021-127
But with the added twist that this guy did this to Juve, the club I support and is dragging it through the mud. And to make matters worse, (outside of any fraud) he managed the club with severe incompetence in recent years we were already in terrible shape without this.
The way I see it (if the charges stick) is I have no sympathy for a billionaire CEO defrauding investors and would want them punished if guilty, no different than any CEO or CFO like these guys https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2021-127
But with the added twist that this guy did this to Juve, the club I support and is dragging it through the mud. And to make matters worse, (outside of any fraud) he managed the club with severe incompetence in recent years we were already in terrible shape without this.
What kind of thing do you think happened here? You are bringing up 'defrauding investors'. Agnelli got the money out of the club via offshore accounts? He artificially increased the value of the assets to absorb the losses? We didnt pay taxes? Few of you should take it easy a bit since what has been going on in the media isnt remotely similar to defrauding investors and, especially, with none of the above. In the end you will look stupid after this blows over.