Andrea "Il Bruco Brutto" Agnelli (77 Viewers)

Hust

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nah. you know what happened in 2002? Blatter came out after the South Korea triumphs and said that Spain and Italy deserved to go out for not using their chances and that ref is only human and cannot get every incident right. with VAR you remove that excuse, no more ref cannot see it from every angle and on repeat, if he makes several mistakes in a game, he needs to be removed, because he's not qualified
interesting, that could also work yes

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Its gonna be pretty difficult getting a contactless dive wrong


aka 80% of madrid and barcelona pk's
:tup:


Was wondering what folks thoughts were.

Anyone think UEFA will suddenly entertain requests for VAR now? That would mean it would be harder for Barca/RM presumably.
 

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Seven

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:tup:


Was wondering what folks thoughts were.

Anyone think UEFA will suddenly entertain requests for VAR now? That would mean it would be harder for Barca/RM presumably.
They will. And I expect them to give in even before next season. The only thing that matters is keeping people interested so they can make money. Last year you already had a lot of people turn away in disgust with Real's offside goals against Bayern. Yesterday made that feeling a whole lot worse. As soon as enough people don't trust the refereeing anymore, the game is no longer interesting and VAR will be implemented.

It's not how FIFA and UEFA have operated before, but in the end people will only watch football if they think the game is clean.

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Alot harder.

Debatable stuff will remain debatable


However, les faggets diving, will now be easily reverted

For me personally the debate ends. If a ref is given 5 minutes to look at a decision from all angles and he still decides it's a penalty, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and believe he really does think it's a penalty.
 

Stephan

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I expect our approach to change next season, Agnelli's announcement about team goals at Villar Perosa should be very different from last season
What you expect? Buy more? Sell more?
Start a campaign against Collina and push for VAR in CL with presentations how its used in serie a.

Or no point competing in europe. Sell or best players and buy just italians to improve nazionale?
 

pitbull

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What you expect? Buy more? Sell more?
Start a campaign against Collina and push for VAR in CL with presentations how its used in serie a.

Or no point competing in europe. Sell or best players and buy just italians to improve nazionale?
Go read the last Agnelli statement from Villar Perosa friendly before the season. I expect that to change.
 

Zacheryah

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They will. And I expect them to give in even before next season. The only thing that matters is keeping people interested so they can make money. Last year you already had a lot of people turn away in disgust with Real's offside goals against Bayern. Yesterday made that feeling a whole lot worse. As soon as enough people don't trust the refereeing anymore, the game is no longer interesting and VAR will be implemented.

It's not how FIFA and UEFA have operated before, but in the end people will only watch football if they think the game is clean.

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For me personally the debate ends. If a ref is given 5 minutes to look at a decision from all angles and he still decides it's a penalty, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and believe he really does think it's a penalty.
The only thing i see is a difference between styles. 'what is contact'. how much is enough"

But this is just a very small part. The majority indeed, should be pretty obviously judged with VAR
 

pitbull

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What did he say? What do you expect will change?
I think we'll go from "Scudetto is our main objective and CL must not be an obsession" to "9 months from now we must be playing in that CL final, lets do everything possible and impossible to win it"

Winning another Scudetto this season will feel great, but it'll not shadow the bad taste towards RM or CL as a competition, it shouldnt be our main objective anymore
 

Hust

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I think we'll go from "Scudetto is our main objective and CL must not be an obsession" to "9 months from now we must be playing in that CL final, lets do everything possible and impossible to win it"
:tup:

The tidal shift certainly needs to happen. Serie A is too easy, besides, if we build a team to legitimately challenge for CL glory, the league should be that much easier. Besides, if Sarri leaves Napoli I doubt Napoli will be anything like this season.
 
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If people want VAR to prevent this sort of thing happening but also are convincing refs help the Barca's and RM's of the world then what difference is VAR going to make? They can always stick to their decision regardless of what the tiny screen says.
for example.. calls in Real against Bayern last year will not stand. 3 major wrong calls.
Vidal Red, CR7 2 offside goals, all 3 will not stand, he cant ignore the screen there
 

Stephan

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You think RM players aren’t under pressure to deliver? Or their coach?


Not much pressure with 12 men.

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Be honest about it. Do you think that Barca and RM players aren’t under pressure? Sooner or later if AA really wants the damn thing don’t you think it’s time to say it?
Im being honest. Real gets calls their way.

Pointless to compare our teams with those spanish billionaires.

We have to sell big names every summee here.
 

Hust

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I get the ref argument. That doesn't change the fact that they are under enormous pressure there to win everything. Literally, everything...refs or not.

If their revolving door of coaches doesn't suggest that then I'm not sure how else to convey it.

They are required to win everything they can get their hands on and their players seem to adjust to that pressure fine.
 

Stephan

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Its only CL.

Real doesnt care about La liga.

And i dont buy this pressure if Papa Perez puts money into Uefa pocket.

Way too many calls going their way these last couple of years in big games.

I wouldnt be surprised if Bayern get fcked.
 

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