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Bjerknes

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Nedvěd;3037576 said:
Del Neri is not as bad as people suggests, I doubt that any manager in the whole Serie A would've got Juve into Champions league.
Sure he get's many of his subs wrong an sticks with shit players like Motta but he isn't as bad as people suggest. Juve's squad is so small and I think it's the #1 reason why Juve have been shite in the 2nd part of the season, and it's because of how shallow is the depth of the squad, and not because of average players or average management. In the first part of the season Juve were sublime, with a fresh Quag and a not fully fatigued and a very motivated Krasic who raped the defences apart, Quag got injured and Krasic obviously looks tried, same with Aquialni (who also was very good at the start) and everyone else. The squad is so small and they became so tired in the end of the season and it's the main reason Juve failed, not Del Neri, not Marotta, not Pepe (not saying they didn't contribute to the failure but they weren't the main reason imo)

And people who criticize Del Neri's subs, sometimes he get's them right, last season his subs lost Roma the league, he got two wide players in the 2nd half IIRC and it opened Roma's defence wide giving the freedom for Cassano to do his job in the middle.
We played in only one competition in the second half of the season and all the main players besides Quag saw plenty of time. Melo, Aquilani, Krasic, Chiellini, and even Buffon returned. How can you say squad depth is the problem? Even the main players were off form and as a team we were terrible.

The defense was disorganized, DN didn't get the best out of his players, his subs are 99% of the time idiotic, so he shoulders a lot of the blame. Period.

Saying the problem is squad depth is completely wrong. We have enough squad players, it's the quality and mentality of the team that's the problem, which is related to DN.
 
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We played in only one competition in the second half of the season and all the main players besides Quag saw plenty of time. Melo, Aquilani, Krasic, Chiellini, and even Buffon returned. How can you say squad depth is the problem? Even the main players were off form and as a team we were terrible.

The defense was disorganized, DN didn't get the best out of his players, his subs are 99% of the time idiotic, so he shoulders a lot of the blame. Period.

Saying the problem is squad depth is completely wrong. We have enough squad players, it's the quality and mentality of the team that's the problem, which is related to DN.
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Fake Melo

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There are absolute NO excuses for losing points to the likes of Catania, Lecce, Bologna, Chievo, Parma and Palermo. Absolute no fucking excuses. Even if he played the Primaveras he needs to leave.

Did I mention Sampdoria? Losing points to fucking Sampdoria. I don't care if you have Pepe or Ribery on your left wing. You can't lose points to relegation strugglers.
 

Hust

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There are absolute NO excuses for losing points to the likes of Catania, Lecce, Bologna, Chievo, Parma and Palermo. Absolute no fucking excuses. Even if he played the Primaveras he needs to leave.

Did I mention Sampdoria? Losing points to fucking Sampdoria. I don't care if you have Pepe or Ribery on your left wing. You can't lose points to relegation strugglers.
Sly that you forgot to mention he built that samp team. He lead them to the CL, the guys a genius.
 

Nedvěd

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We played in only one competition in the second half of the season and all the main players besides Quag saw plenty of time. Melo, Aquilani, Krasic, Chiellini, and even Buffon returned. How can you say squad depth is the problem? Even the main players were off form and as a team we were terrible.

The defense was disorganized, DN didn't get the best out of his players, his subs are 99% of the time idiotic, so he shoulders a lot of the blame. Period.

Saying the problem is squad depth is completely wrong. We have enough squad players, it's the quality and mentality of the team that's the problem, which is related to DN.
Juve only have 4 central midfielders and that's not enough, look at how many midfielders Milan and Inter got. Juve's team got no room for rotation.
 

Bjerknes

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Nedvěd;3037603 said:
Juve only have 4 central midfielders and that's not enough, look at how many midfielders Milan and Inter got. Juve's team got no room for rotation.
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But we usually play the 4-4-2. If I remember correctly, we've only used Giandonato once in Serie A since the new year. Since we were out of Europa and the Coppa early in January, most of the time we only had one match per week. You think that we need six CM's playing only one match a week? :confused:
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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We played in only one competition in the second half of the season and all the main players besides Quag saw plenty of time. Melo, Aquilani, Krasic, Chiellini, and even Buffon returned. How can you say squad depth is the problem? Even the main players were off form and as a team we were terrible.

The defense was disorganized, DN didn't get the best out of his players, his subs are 99% of the time idiotic, so he shoulders a lot of the blame. Period.

Saying the problem is squad depth is completely wrong. We have enough squad players, it's the quality and mentality of the team that's the problem, which is related to DN.
enough dept ? no strikers mid december, and no understudy for aqua or melo. aqua played like double his previous record games in a season


we failed because we ran out of strikers and the management refused to give marotta a budged to buy a decent one in januari
we failed because our board didnt allowed marotta the budged in januari to get 2 new fullbacks, wich would have solved much
we failed because when the team was in decline, it was clear that there was no one with leadership and personality under the players to change this

The ones who had that were nedved and zanetti
buffon and del piero were mostly abscent

check what milan did, what inter did last year
both had early struggles, and fixed their team in januari, wich succes


Instead of wining popularity by making the fans fap on the likes of aguero trough rumours, they should allow marotta a fair budged, to fix the problems
 

Fake Melo

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Didn't the board give Marotta enough in summer? Who does he think he is working for? Roman fucking Abrahamovic?

As far as the striker goes, I have one frickin name for you. CASSANO.
 

Zacheryah

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But we usually play the 4-4-2. If I remember correctly, we've only used Giandonato once in Serie A since the new year. Since we were out of Europa and the Coppa early in January, most of the time we only had one match per week. You think that we need six CM's playing only one match a week? :confused:
giandonato is like worse then sissoko, dont be fooled
its not because he's young that he has lots of potential
 
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