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KB824

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Sep 16, 2003
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1st ballot Hall of Fame. No question about it.

@Dru, here is my hot take for the day.

When you compare the 2 quarterbacks, in their totality, meaning including regular season and playoffs, Eli was better than Peyton.

That's right, I said it. Eli was better than Peyton. Don't believe me? Look at their numbers in the playoffs during their 2 Super Bowl runs that lead to a championship. It's not even close. And when you consider that A) The Giants faced much tougher teams, and B) Nearly all of those playoff games for Eli came on the road, then yeah, Eli was better.
 

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Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
46,659
1st ballot Hall of Fame. No question about it.

@Dru, here is my hot take for the day.

When you compare the 2 quarterbacks, in their totality, meaning including regular season and playoffs, Eli was better than Peyton.

That's right, I said it. Eli was better than Peyton. Don't believe me? Look at their numbers in the playoffs during their 2 Super Bowl runs that lead to a championship. It's not even close. And when you consider that A) The Giants faced much tougher teams, and B) Nearly all of those playoff games for Eli came on the road, then yeah, Eli was better.
that seems like a pretty skewed stat. How many more times did Peyton make the playoffs
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,418
1st ballot Hall of Fame. No question about it.

@Dru, here is my hot take for the day.

When you compare the 2 quarterbacks, in their totality, meaning including regular season and playoffs, Eli was better than Peyton.

That's right, I said it. Eli was better than Peyton. Don't believe me? Look at their numbers in the playoffs during their 2 Super Bowl runs that lead to a championship. It's not even close. And when you consider that A) The Giants faced much tougher teams, and B) Nearly all of those playoff games for Eli came on the road, then yeah, Eli was better.
But the Super Bowl with a mediocre Denver is still more impressive.
 

KB824

Senior Member
Sep 16, 2003
31,789
that seems like a pretty skewed stat. How many more times did Peyton make the playoffs
That doesn't matter. What matters is who played bigger when the pressure was higher. Eli played bigger in the moments that mattered most.

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But the Super Bowl with a mediocre Denver is still more impressive.
But the Super Bowl with a mediocre Denver is still more impressive.

Are you talking about Denver with that all world defense? How was that mediocre? and Eli beat the fucking Patriots twice.


Patriots teams that were dominant

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And the Broncos absolutely did not win the Super Bowl that year because of Manning. They won inspite of him. He was beyond awful that year.

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The year that Peyton won his first super bowl. 3 Touchdowns/ 7 Interceptions

The 2 years that Peyton won the Super Bowl 5 Touchdowns/ 8 Interceptions


Eli's 2 years? 15 Touchdowns/ 2 Interceptions

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And let's not forget that McAdoo committed what might be the most despicable and disrespectful thing a coach could ever do to a QB. Purposely stop Eli's consecutive games started streak in a season that was going nowhere. My heart broke when I saw him crying in the locker room when he found out.
 
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Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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Absolutely not. Don't be silly.

The road that the Giants took to those two super bowls were brutal. 6 out of the 7 games on the road, including 2 up in Green Bay.
I think you’re giving Eli too much credit. He was great but it’s a team effort and I think coaching played the biggest part as it does in most football games. Eli got lucky mainly, especially with the helmet catch
 

KB824

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Sep 16, 2003
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I think you’re giving Eli too much credit. He was great but it’s a team effort and I think coaching played the biggest part as it does in most football games. Eli got lucky mainly, especially with the helmet catch
All I'm saying is that if I had to choose between the two Manning brothers to win a big game, I choose Eli over Peyton 10 times out of 10. The numbers don't lie. And let's not forget about the all world talent that Manning had around him

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Peyton, not so much Eli in regards to the all world talent.
 
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Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
1st ballot Hall of Fame. No question about it.

@Dru, here is my hot take for the day.

When you compare the 2 quarterbacks, in their totality, meaning including regular season and playoffs, Eli was better than Peyton.

That's right, I said it. Eli was better than Peyton. Don't believe me? Look at their numbers in the playoffs during their 2 Super Bowl runs that lead to a championship. It's not even close. And when you consider that A) The Giants faced much tougher teams, and B) Nearly all of those playoff games for Eli came on the road, then yeah, Eli was better.
Cringe post, dude.

Two good playoff runs don’t make up for an entire career of mediocrity. He got blazing hot twice, but was mostly irrelevant besides.

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Outside his two Super Bowl runs, he made the playoffs four times and threw 3 TDs - 7 interceptions in those 4 games.

All credit to him for his two SB wins but he isn’t a first ballot hall of famer, and he very clearly isn’t better than his big bro. Not even close. Lol
 
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Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
46,659
Cringe post, dude.

Two good playoff runs don’t make up for an entire career of mediocrity. He got blazing hot twice, but was mostly irrelevant besides.

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Outside his two Super Bowl runs, he made the playoffs four times and threw 3 TDs - 7 interceptions in those 4 games.

All credit to him for his two SB wins but he isn’t a first ballot hall of famer, and he very clearly isn’t better than his big bro. Not even close. Lol
another voice of reason, thank spaghetti flying monster
 

KB824

Senior Member
Sep 16, 2003
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I stand by what I say. I would take Eli over Peyton.

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Much better big game player than Peyton.

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16 years in the biggest media market in the world, numerous head coaches, inept front offices, you name it.

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Come at me, you fuckers.
 
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Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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Dude. You’re basing it on two seasons alone. And you said the totality of his career is better and it’s not close. Not that you would just take him in a one-off big game.

If we take away those two seasons, seeing as you are only comparing two seasons of each player, Eli lost his other 4 playoff games and threw 3 tds - 7 ints. Peyton threw 35 tds - 17 ints outside of his two SB wins. While he wasn’t particularly great during those SB win playoffs (still led his team to wins over the Pats and played well in those games), his team let him down multiple times in previous playoff games.
 

KB824

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Sep 16, 2003
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I think I said it several times that if I had to choose between the two for a big game, I would choose Eli. And you want to talk about teams letting Peyton down? How about an entire organization letting Eli down? When did he ever have anything close to the offensive talent around him that his brother had?
 

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