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[acmilan]

Illogical

it looks that way because you are way in over your head arguing NFL with me

 

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[Salvo]

it looks that way because you are way in over your head in arguing NFL with me

Just admit that the pats fucked up. That's all. Stop being such a homer

 

[acmilan]

Arizona's defense:
8 Sacks
1 Interception
3 Fumble Recoveries
2 Touchdowns

conclusion - Jordy Nelson made A-Rod who he is, not the other way around

 

[Post Ironic]

conclusion - Jordy Nelson made A-Rod who he is, not the other way around

So when A-Rod won the Super Bowl in 2010 with Jordy Nelson not even a starter, he made A-Rod who he is?

 

[acmilan]

So when A-Rod won the Super Bowl in 2010 with Jordy Nelson not even a starter, he made A-Rod who he is?

sorry bud but Pack have had one major injury this year and that was Jordy, before the season even began. So, if you fellas are gonna use Jordy being out as an excuse for how bad A-Rod has been this year, that is indeed the one logical conclusion (be it a direct or indirect one) - Jordy made A-Rod, not other way around.

which reminds me - A-Rod is gonna pile on so much garbage-time production today, that 5 years from now, people looking at the stats will say "The Great A-Rod did his thing but his teammates and his D betrayed him. Even the great A-Rod can't win games on his own." a.k.a. The Peyton Excuse.

 

[Ocelot]

sorry bud but Pack have had one major injury this year and that was Jordy, before the season even began. So, if you fellas are gonna use Jordy being out as an excuse for how bad A-Rod has been this year, that is indeed the one logical conclusion (be it a direct or indirect one) - Jordy made A-Rod, not other way around.

which reminds me - A-Rod is gonna pile on so much garbage-time production today, that 5 years from now, people looking at the stats will say "The Great A-Rod did his thing but his teammates and his D betrayed him. Even the great A-Rod can't win games on his own." a.k.a. The Peyton Excuse.

Or he's just in bad form and playing shitty, with or without Jordy.

 

[Post Ironic]

sorry bud but Pack have had one major injury this year and that was Jordy, before the season even began. So, if you fellas are gonna use Jordy being out as an excuse for how bad A-Rod has been this year, that is indeed the one logical conclusion (be it a direct or indirect one) - Jordy made A-Rod, not other way around.

which reminds me - A-Rod is gonna pile on so much garbage-time production today, that 5 years from now, people looking at the stats will say "The Great A-Rod did his thing but his teammates and his D betrayed him. Even the great A-Rod can't win games on his own." a.k.a. The Peyton Excuse.

Rodgers is having a shit season, regardless of Jordy Nelson. Big deal. His team is still going to be in the playoffs. If he's crap again next year, then something can be said. But 1 bad season means 1 bad season.

 

[Völler]

sorry bud but Pack have had one major injury this year and that was Jordy, before the season even began. So, if you fellas are gonna use Jordy being out as an excuse for how bad A-Rod has been this year, that is indeed the one logical conclusion (be it a direct or indirect one) - Jordy made A-Rod, not other way around.

which reminds me - A-Rod is gonna pile on so much garbage-time production today, that 5 years from now, people looking at the stats will say "The Great A-Rod did his thing but his teammates and his D betrayed him. Even the great A-Rod can't win games on his own." a.k.a. The Peyton Excuse.

How's your matchup against Dru going?

 

[acmilan]

Or he's just in bad form and playing shitty, with or without Jordy.

mmm, true greats don't just go to sleep for an entire season in which his team has managed to stay healthy for the most part - certainly healthier than the Pats, Panthers, Ravens, Steelers, Seattle etc, etc.
A great QB elevates his team above the circumstances - not implying here he has to make the SB no matter what but make his team play better than what common sense would expect/project them to.
This year, Rodgers has, to an extent, become part of the circumstances.

 

[Salvo]

Packers o line is in shambles.

 

[acmilan]

How's your matchup against Dru going?

not great but still way better than your match-up vs whoever it is you are playing for one of them irrelevant spots

 

[Post Ironic]

mmm, true greats don't just go to sleep for an entire season in which his team has managed to stay healthy for the most part - certainly healthier than the Pats, Panthers, Ravens, Steelers, Seattle etc, etc.
A great QB elevates his team above the circumstances - not implying here he has to make the SB no matter what but make his team play better than what common sense would expect/project them to.
This year, Rodgers has, to an extent, become part of the circumstances.

Like Brady at home in playoffs to Baltimore in 2010 and the Jets in 2011.

 

[Völler]

not great but still way better than your match-up vs whoever it is you are playing for one of them irrelevant spots

Getting to the final only to score 77 points is impressive though. I'd rather play for 5th place than failing in the final like that.

 

[acmilan]

Like Brady at home in playoffs to Baltimore in 2010 and the Jets in 2011.

the difference my dear troll is this - Brady's failures are the exception when you consider his entire career and what he's achieved on an incredibly consistent basis.
With Rodgers, post-season success is the exception.

What should worry packer fans is that this year, for the first time in his career even regular season success is no longer to be taken as a given even with Rodgers being fully healthy, unlike some previous years. This game you fellas love playing when you assume that Rodgers has another 7-8 years of top Qb-ing left in him is a dangerous one. For a Qb to spend 15+ years at the top of his profession is a privilege, not the standard.

But with Jordy due back in 2016, if A-Rod is back to his magical best, I guess we will know who made who, won't we?

 

[Ocelot]

Getting to the final only to score 77 points is impressive though. I'd rather play for 5th place than failing in the final like that.

You know how perfectly this sets acmilan up, right?

 

[Post Ironic]

You know how perfectly this sets acmilan up, right?

This.

 

[acmilan]

Getting to the final only to score 77 points is impressive though. I'd rather play for 5th place than failing in the final like that.

I am sure you would, babe ... good thing it's not even an option then.

 

[Ocelot]

mmm, true greats don't just go to sleep for an entire season in which his team has managed to stay healthy for the most part - certainly healthier than the Pats, Panthers, Ravens, Steelers, Seattle etc, etc.
A great QB elevates his team above the circumstances - not implying here he has to make the SB no matter what but make his team play better than what common sense would expect/project them to.
This year, Rodgers has, to an extent, become part of the circumstances.

Saying that Jordy was the only reason for Rodgers success doesn't make sense from a purely logical standpoint. Maybe you're right, but maybe Rodgers was simply great the last few years, with Jordy helping a little, and now has a spectacularly bad year and Jordy wouldn't help much. You don't have anything to prove either point, so don't act like your version is the only one possible.

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This.

He missed it

 

[acmilan]

You know how perfectly this sets acmilan up, right?

nah, I ain't that cruel, guys - not gonna put my well sharpened knife in that open and festering wound

it's been what, 19 years and counting huh?

 

[Völler]

You know how perfectly this sets acmilan up, right?

I didn't.