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[Völler]

Anyone want an independent opinion on who's team is shit or not? Point me and I'll assess. $2.

Don't help ALC.

 

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[ALC]

I proposed a deal.

Remind me what it was.

 

[Salvo]

The scoring is retarded, defence and kickers score way too much. RB don't score enough.

 

[Enron]

Blame the commish. A proper league gives 1 point per 4 yards to rbs, 1 point per 7 yards to wrs/tes, 1 point per 15 yards to QBs. 1 pt per reception for everyone and 7 points per td.

Touch down leagues are lame after about 8 people. So adding value in other places keeps things competitive.

 

[swag]

I have to concur with E here based on prior experience.

 

[Enron]

I finally got internet access here and am in a league with some of my co-workers. We have a good scoring system, but not many know much about american football.
Somewhow they let me draft Megatron, AJ Green, Andrew Luck in the first three rounds. I ended up grabbing Cam Newton in the Sixth and Julian Edelman in the 7th. I started Cam my first week and scored the most points in the league. Without a QB.

Some dude drafted a TE in the first round.

 

[swag]

I can't say I'd do much better playing fútbol de fantasía in Mexico and wondering why everyone laughs when I pick Cuauhtémoc Blanco.

 

[Enron]

It's true, but most of the guys in the league are Americans and it was one of us that took the TE.

 

[swag]

Is that like busting your gringo stereotype down there? Like all gringos are supposed to be good at NFL fantasy football?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

The scoring is retarded, defence and kickers score way too much. my RB don't score enough.

fixed, you're welcome to trade jamaal charles for my kicker and defense who combined for a whopping 5 points last week

Blame the commish. A proper league gives 1 point per 4 yards to rbs, 1 point per 7 yards to wrs/tes, 1 point per 15 yards to QBs. 1 pt per reception for everyone and 7 points per td.

Touch down leagues are lame after about 8 people. So adding value in other places keeps things competitive.

says who? the point of fantasy is to mirror team/player performances into points, the kicker and defense are just as critical to a team as RBs and WRs, the latter actually more. Also the more people you have the greater number of relevant parts/players you want to keep it fun.

Finally, the league point system only slightly boosted kicker and defense points to make a very important part of the game relevant, nothing dramatic @Salvo is a little cry baby who lost by 80 points with a kicker differential of -3 the same salvo who wanted PPR(which really inflates scoring for WRs on meaningless catches and 1st downs)

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I finally got internet access here and am in a league with some of my co-workers. We have a good scoring system, but not many know much about american football.
Somewhow they let me draft Megatron, AJ Green, Andrew Luck in the first three rounds. I ended up grabbing Cam Newton in the Sixth and Julian Edelman in the 7th. I started Cam my first week and scored the most points in the league. Without a QB.

Some dude drafted a TE in the first round.

if it's jimmy graham he is top 10 fantasy and does go in the first round.

in my college buddies league, i managed to get luck, forte, and megatron(and cam newton in the bench) in a 12 very experienced players league sometimes you get lucky in the draft

 

[swag]

says who? the point of fantasy is to mirror team/player performances into points, the kicker and defense are just as critical to a team as RBs and WRs, the latter actually more. Also the more people you have the greater number of relevant parts/players you want to keep it fun.

But kickers are like like the whores of the NFL. Sure, most johns get their scores with them. But they're easy to pick up, easy to toss, and there's always another one waiting to put out an equally big score on the waiver wire.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

But kickers are like like the whores of the NFL. Sure, most johns get their scores with them. But they're easy to pick up, easy to toss, and there's always another one waiting to put out an equally big score on the waiver wire.

thats actually what makes their job one of the hardest, the pressure.

 

[Enron]

fixed, you're welcome to trade jamaal charles for my kicker and defense who combined for a whopping 5 points last week



says who? the point of fantasy is to mirror team/player performances into points, the kicker and defense are just as critical to a team as RBs and WRs, the latter actually more. Also the more people you have the greater number of relevant parts/players you want to keep it fun.

if it's jimmy graham he is top 10 fantasy and does go in the first round.

in my college buddies league, i managed to get luck, forte, and megatron(and cam newton in the bench) in a 12 very experienced players league sometimes you get lucky in the draft

It was Jimmy and someone took him second.

I disagree, getting points per catch is huge in evening things out. If a receiver gets 10 catches in a game his owner should reap the rewards. A receiver like that is hugely important to his team. But in fantasy, if he doesn't score touchdowns, then he doesn't matter.

If you really want to "mirror the play of the nfl and make important parts of the game relevant". Then you use individual players instead of team defenses and a flex position after the 3 wrs and 2 rbs.

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thats actually what makes their job one of the hardest, the pressure.

Yeah, I agree. But why would you inflate their worth in fantasy?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

It was Jimmy and someone took him second.

I disagree, getting points per catch is huge in evening things out. If a receiver gets 10 catches in a game his owner should reap the rewards. A receiver like that is hugely important to his team. But in fantasy, if he doesn't score touchdowns, then he doesn't matter.

If you really want to "mirror the play of the nfl and make important parts of the game relevant". Then you use individual players instead of team defenses and a flex position after the 3 wrs and 2 rbs.

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Yeah, I agree. But why would you inflate their worth in fantasy?

do you know who harry douglas is? most wont and rightfully so but in PPR hes a stud, which makes that point system a joke imo also this whole notion of equating RBs to WRs is silly.

as for defense, if one player is relevant how much more relevant are 11 of em?

and please define inflated worth? as far as i know you dont even know our point system

 

[swag]

I always saw fantasy worth as proportionate as to how disproportionate a player is to the mean available, thus making him a much rarer commodity. Thus the top running backs can outproduce the average running back by 3-4x points, but the best kickers only outscore the average kicker by 1.5-2x. Thus why RBs get a disproportionate amount of love.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

RBs are generally a surer value, since most teams have one main guy kinda like the QB, while WRs have to contend with other receiving options.

 

[Enron]

do you know who harry douglas is? most wont and rightfully so but in PPR hes a stud, which makes that point system a joke imo also this whole notion of equating RBs to WRs is silly.

as for defense, if one player is relevant how much more relevant are 11 of em?

and please define inflated worth? as far as i know you dont even know our point system

I didn't say anything about equating rbs to wrs. I just said, a good league counts a catch as a point. Running backs can earn points for catches too. If you have a running back like LeSean McCoy who is an absolute stud but may get undervalued in traditional leagues, then in my league his actual value is reflected.

In my leagues returners can earn points for their actions as well. In fact, I usually have it set so that offensive player can score defensive points. That brings block punts, fumble recoveries into play.

I like playing with individuals instead of defenses. It's fun. Especially when you're trying to find defensive linemen.

Next season, I'll commish a league. You can play in it. It will be a good experience for you.

As far as inflating value in kickers. I would say that giving them anything more than a point per extra point and 3 points per field goal is too much.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I didn't say anything about equating rbs to wrs. I just said, a good league counts a catch as a point. Running backs can earn points for catches too. If you have a running back like LeSean McCoy who is an absolute stud but may get undervalued in traditional leagues, then in my league his actual value is reflected.

In my leagues returners can earn points for their actions as well. In fact, I usually have it set so that offensive player can score defensive pints. That brings block punts, fumble recoveries into play.

I like playing with individuals instead of defenses. It's fun. Especially when you're trying to find defensive linemen.

Next season, I'll commish a league. You can play in it. It will be a good experience for you.

As far as inflating value in kickers. I would say that giving them anything more than a point per extra point and 3 points per field goal is too much.

wat i most likely played more fantasy than you

 

[Enron]

wat i most likely played more fantasy than you

No way man. This is my 3rd playing. I have more experience that anyone!

 

[GordoDeCentral]

i used to play rotisserie fantasy baseball when mo vaughn was touted to be the next big thing