American Juve (9 Viewers)

[flieeeekke]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


But the thing is that its easier said than done. All I ever hear from John Kerry is this same talk of Bush this, Bush that, and things will change. I do believe that with Kerry, he will improve our relations with other countries, but at the same time I wonder how he will provide this country the same level of security as Bush does, as well as resolving the Iraq problem.

dont want to go over it again but does attacking a country after terror acts guarantee your safety?

 

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[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by Torkel ] ++

What security measures is Bush providing now, that Kerry can't if he is elected? And I would certainly think that he could handle the Iraq situation as good or better than Bush, as his job there IMO seems very faulty.

Well maybe a better way of putting it is, which I've said before, that with Kerry National Security won't be entirely overlooked, just underlooked. Kerry preaches that Bush has too much power over people with the Patriot Act, and demands too many unneccessary search provisions. Kerry wants to restore "freedom" to all who live here. That might not be such a good thing. Thats what I mean by underlooked. Terrorists might have an easier time here with Kerry.

Wich standard policies specifically? Anti-abortion and/or gay marriages? And I just have to ask again about the security measures.

I like Bush's stance on gay marriages, and of course Anti-abortion.

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by Fliakis ] ++


dont want to go over it again but does attacking a country after terror acts guarantee your safety?

Of course it can't guarantee it, but as in the case of Afghanistan, it sure helps. We were able to round up many known terrorists, thus taking away the power of Al Qaeda. The more we find, the less there are to plan and carry out terrorist acts.

 

[Bjerknes]

Great. There is new information that terrorists are targeting financial districts in DC, New York, and New Jersey. The Government has raised the threat level to "High" now. This doesn't sound good. :groan:

 

[flieeeekke]

sorry to hear that mate.

 

[Asma]

yeah,it sure doesnt sound good at all,Andy!

 

[swag]

As I mentioned before in this thread, Bush is a better recruiting tool for Al Qaeda than anything Osama Bin Laden can ever say or do these days.

As the New Yorker recently mentioned -- the Abu Hafs al-Masri Brigades were quoted by a London newspaper after the Madrid bombings changed the election: "We are very keen that Bush does not lose the upcoming elections." Bush's "idiocy and religious fanaticism" are useful, for they stir the Islamic world into action.

If it's all about forcing Muslims everywhere to take sides on whether you belong on the side of the believers or infidels, Bush is going to be a far better tool for that than Kerry.

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by swag ] ++
As I mentioned before in this thread, Bush is a better recruiting tool for Al Qaeda than anything Osama Bin Laden can ever say or do these days.

As the New Yorker recently mentioned -- the Abu Hafs al-Masri Brigades were quoted by a London newspaper after the Madrid bombings changed the election: "We are very keen that Bush does not lose the upcoming elections." Bush's "idiocy and religious fanaticism" are useful, for they stir the Islamic world into action.

If it's all about forcing Muslims everywhere to take sides on whether you belong on the side of the believers or infidels, Bush is going to be a far better tool for that than Kerry.

And like after Sept. 11, the whole country ralied around President Bush. Maybe the same will happen again, thus making more people vote for Bush. Whatever the scenario, this still doesn't sound good Swag.

 

[swag]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
And like after Sept. 11, the whole country ralied around President Bush. Maybe the same will happen again, thus making more people vote for Bush. Whatever the scenario, this still doesn't sound good Swag.

Ahhh, excuse me? Speak for yourself.

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by swag ] ++


Ahhh, excuse me? Speak for yourself.

I'm speaking in general Swag. The numbers showed it. His approval rating was like 75% or so.

 

[Elnur_E65]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


And like after Sept. 11, the whole country ralied around President Bush. Maybe the same will happen again, thus making more people vote for Bush. Whatever the scenario, this still doesn't sound good Swag.

I don't know how many of you watched mayor Bloomberg's press conference yesterday, but he was openly asked if wether the intelligence report and subsequental measures were in any way political. He said "no" But could as well go a different way.

Think about it. Democratic National Convention just finished, Republican convention coming up in late August. This new threat erases all DNC impressions, etc. Bush campaign creates another "boost", uniting all Americans against the wings of terrorism...

 

[sallyinzaghi]

++ [ originally posted by Torkel ] ++

Don't know what you mean by "not because the arts are there or anything", but no town contains as many famous art museums as Paris, so...

I know... what I meant was that I call Paris 'artsy' not solely because they have great museums there, but even the city and people have a certain art to them.

at least thats how i see it :undecide:

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by Pendir_E65 ] ++


I don't know how many of you watched mayor Bloomberg's press conference yesterday, but he was openly asked if wether the intelligence report and subsequental measures were in any way political. He said "no" But could as well go a different way.

Think about it. Democratic National Convention just finished, Republican convention coming up in late August. This new threat erases all DNC impressions, etc. Bush campaign creates another "boost", uniting all Americans against the wings of terrorism...

Well you do have a point there. But I don't believe that Bush would scare millions of people just to give him the upperhand, as little as it may be.

 

[Zlatan]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


Well you do have a point there. But I don't believe that Bush would scare millions of people just to give him the upperhand, as little as it may be.

Funny, after all his lies I dont think this would be such a big deal for him.

 

[Torkel]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
But I don't believe that Bush would scare millions of people just to give him the upperhand, as little as it may be.

I don't know the current situation well enough to comment, but I certainly think Bush would do that, especially now.

 

[Zlatan]

Yeah, this took away some steam from kerry's campaign, as it took away the focus from his issues, the economy, health care, education, reducing the budget deficit, etc, and shifted it to terrorism, which is Bush's only issue.

 

[Zlatan]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


Of course it can't guarantee it, but as in the case of Afghanistan, it sure helps. We were able to round up many known terrorists, thus taking away the power of Al Qaeda. The more we find, the less there are to plan and carry out terrorist acts.

It hasnt really taken a lot of power from Al Quaeda, it's just made them re-organize themselves and become even more dangerous.

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++
Yeah, this took away some steam from kerry's campaign, as it took away the focus from his issues, the economy, health care, education, reducing the budget deficit, etc, and shifted it to terrorism, which is Bush's only issue.

You do have a point there as well. But lets hope your right, or you all will be watching my country getting attacked, cowardly, again.

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++



It hasnt really taken a lot of power from Al Quaeda, it's just made them re-organize themselves and become even more dangerous.

Actually yes it has, by clear numbers. We were able to detain hunderds of terrorist and Taliban officials, thus making that region, and possibly ours, a little more safe. I would reckon that every country is a little more safe now because of it.

 

[Torkel]

What really struck me when watching Bush on CNN the other day was how poorly he actually spoke English. He spoke very slowly, took pauses where it was completely unnatural to take them, struggled not only with big words but also medium sized ones, and just didn't seem comfortable. It struck me how weird it is that that guy actually is the president of the United States.

++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++
Yeah, this took away some steam from kerry's campaign, as it took away the focus from his issues, the economy, health care, education, reducing the budget deficit, etc, and shifted it to terrorism, which is Bush's only issue.

Very true. And I really think it's weird that more Americans aren't voting for Kerry, when he has a clear upper hand on some of the most important issues as the economy.

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
But lets hope your right, or you all will be watching my country getting attacked, cowardly, again.

You have no faith in that your national security would be able to prevent or stop an attack from happening?