Amauri Carvalho de Oliveira (23 Viewers)

At what cost would you be ok with Amauri?

  • Giovinco + cash

  • De Ceglie + Criscito + cash

  • De Ceglie + Criscito + Giovinco

  • Nocerino + Almiron + Marchionni

  • Almiron + Marchionni + cash

  • Fuck no, don't want him at all

  • Almiron+cash


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Luca

Senior Member
Apr 22, 2007
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your just showing how brainwashed you are by your own media. Was it that hard to give a good informative post like those two??

On second thought, for you it probably is hard
So you think i'm being brainwashed?

It may suprise you to know that I have no emotional attachment to England whatsoever, so here is a view on a neutral who has just as much knowlege as any England fan.

Firstly is it any suprise that England didn't qualify for euro 2008? NO
Why? Simply because there is a lack of decent alternitives, who was there to replace Paul Robinson when he was out of form and no-one trusted David James? Scott Carson, inexperienced and ultimately thrown in at the deep end.
Who else is there to replace Rooney or Owen if they are absent? Peter Crouch is hardly going to fill there boots (i don't mean phsycally).

How can you tell me I don't know nothing? I have lived in England all my life and am surrounded by talk all the time of this sort of nature.

But you can't argue with figures. OVER 260 forigein players play in the Premier League. And even worse in the big 4 there are only 19 players that are english that play reguarly for their club and out of these 19 only 15 are active for their country, Scholes, bridge, sidwell, pennant and carragher all do not play for England. You can't argue with facts Fred it's blatantly bad for your country when only 15 players are actively involved with there club to some extent.

And Arsenal well they are the worst, you regularly feild a team full of forigner's and Walcott does himself well to get on the pitch at all. And if you want to argue with me about hoyte, well he is a poor exuse for a player.

So when you snigger and call our youth products, let your self know that your own team is destroying England football, your team is supposed to be a major figure of english football but instead you have a circus full of forigeners, yes it is ok to have forigner's but to only have one english man in your team is quite frankly ridiculous.

On the other hand we are getting the best of both world We are developing players that have great potenital and you said you haven't watched Marchisio so who are you to make a desicion?
Secondly we are preserving our own countries roots, and we will and have already been praised for this, So I laugh at your team in a few years time when these new rules about having more home grown players from your own country in your team, and we will be back up there with the best Wenger is scared of this rule you can tell it's bringing his plan down to it's knees.

How can someone living in the UAE call themselves a passionate arsenal fan, i'm guessing you have no cockney roots, do you even know what cockney is?
 

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rounder

Blindman
Jun 13, 2007
7,233
Cavenaghi, VDV, Grosso, Valeri (Lanus), Pablo Piatti & Cristian Zapata would be the ideal transfers to Juve. Amauri is definetly a great striker but I find it foolish to spend a lot of money for a player we really don't need considering that we can improve our defense & Midfield.

Transfers IN: Cristian Zapata, Mellberg, Grosso, Cavenaghi, VDV, Valeri (Lanus), Pablo Piatti (buy him and then send him on loan), Giovinco, De Ceglie, Marchisio, Mirante.

OUT: Molinaro, Belardi, Tiago, Almiron, Nocerino, Andrade, Marchionni/Salihadmidzic (either one of them), Blasi & Zalayeta (sell both of them already)
It's funny how you want nearly everyone we bought this year out .
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
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One final piece of advice, How can someone living in the UAE call themselves a passionate arsenal fan, i'm guessing you have no cockney roots, do you even know what cockney is?
What's the advice ?

And are you suggesting that only someone from London can be a passionate Arsenal fan ?
Not to mention that your question is kinda silly. There are many members here who live outside Turin and Italy and who have proven many times how passionate they are, how much they suffer when Juve won't win, how much of their time they dedicate to Juve, watching every single match Juve play, in serie A, coppa and in serie B.
 

Luca

Senior Member
Apr 22, 2007
12,750
What's the advice ?

And are you suggesting that only someone from London can be a passionate Arsenal fan ?
Not to mention that your question is kinda silly. There are many members here who live outside Turin and Italy and who have proven many times how passionate they are, how much they suffer when Juve won't win, how much of their time they dedicate to Juve, watching every single match Juve play, in serie A, coppa and in serie B.
shit thats a type-o that was meant to be some where else.
sorry yes i was angry my point was how can some one argue about english football when they come from the UAE and i come from england i'm around the media 24/7
 

rounder

Blindman
Jun 13, 2007
7,233
How can someone living in the UAE call themselves a passionate arsenal fan, i'm guessing you have no cockney roots, do you even know what cockney is?
Very foolish thing to say indeed . Juve have more supporters outside Italy than they do in Italy . You need to get informed mate .
 

Luca

Senior Member
Apr 22, 2007
12,750
sorry i apologise for the last paragraph to all fans from every where, i was just a bit pissed off about the way fred blatently called me a thick-o, every one can be a fan no matter where they are from I just hope people don't just read that last paragraph but focus on the other parts and see what the message is that i'm trying to get across
I come from a place where you tradittionally support your local team though, Nottingham or you support a team from your heritage, so I guess some of this tradition has imprinted on me.
Again apoligies to Fred, sorry i didn't mean that it was a heat of the moment thing.
 

only-juve

Senior Member
Jan 5, 2008
7,451
So you think i'm being brainwashed?

It may suprise you to know that I have no emotional attachment to England whatsoever, so here is a view on a netral who has just as much knowlege as any England fan.

Firstly is it any suprise that England didn't qualify for euro 2008? NO
Why? Simply because there is a lack of decent alternitives, who was there to replace Paul Robinson when he was out of form and no-one trusted David James? Scott Carson, inexperienced and ultimately thrown in at the deep end.
Who else is there to replace Rooney or Owen if they are absent? Peter Crouch is hardly going to fill there boots (i don't mean phsycally).

How can you tell me I don't know nothing? I have lived in England all my life and am surrounded by talk all the time of this sort of nature.

But you can't argue with figures. OVER 260 forigein players play in the Premier League. And even worse in the big 4 there are only 19 players that are english that play reguarly for their club and out of these 19 only 15 are active for their country, Scholes, bridge, sidwell, pennant and carragher all do not play for England. You can't argue with facts Fred it's blatantly bad for your country when only 15 players are actively involved with there club to some extent.

And Arsenal well they are the worst, you regularly feild a team full of forigner's and Walcott does himself well to get on the pitch at all. And if you want to argue with me about hoyte, well he is a poor exuse for a player.

So when you snigger and call our youth products, let your self know that your own team is destroying England football, your team is supposed to be a major figure of english football but instead you have a circus full of forigeners, yes it is ok to have forigner's but to only have one english man in your team is quite frankly ridiculous.

On the other hand we are getting the best of both world We are developing players that have great potenital and you said you haven't watched Marchisio so who are you to make a desicion?
Secondly we are preserving our own countries roots, and we will and have already been praised for this, So I laugh at your team in a few years time when these new rules about having more home grown players from your own country in your team, and we will be back up there with the best Wenger is scared of this rule you can tell it's bringing his plan down to it's knees.

One final piece of advice, How can someone living in the UAE call themselves a passionate arsenal fan, i'm guessing you have no cockney roots, do you even know what cockney is?
:rofl: great post man, no offence i never thought that england had great talents (though i lived there for 5 years). But for someone who's foreigner like fred (i guess :gsol: ). It is exciting to watch EPL, i don't think he cares how many english players in EPL. As long as teams r doing good in europe. But again i don't blame arsenal for england's lack of talents (IMO english players R just not talented only very few r)....
 

Luca

Senior Member
Apr 22, 2007
12,750
:rofl: great post man, no offence i never thought that england had great talents (though i lived there for 5 years). But for someone who's foreigner like fred (i guess :gsol: ). It is exciting to watch EPL, i don't think he cares how many english players in EPL. As long as teams r doing good in europe. But again i don't blame arsenal for england's lack of talents (IMO english players R just not talented only very few r)....
:agree: yes, I'm glad that someone focused on the rest of my post and not just my last paragraph which I admit is very foolish and I'm not suprised at being hounded for it. I have given an apology for all to see on the previous page, so can you read that before you lay into me, and plase just read the big large piece of text above it. although arsenal did have good youth products like bentley and sidwell they never had patience for them as english players tend to mature later that spanish, dutch ect.
 

Luca

Senior Member
Apr 22, 2007
12,750
Very foolish thing to say indeed . Juve have more supporters outside Italy than they do in Italy . You need to get informed mate .
well thats an obvious statement, the are obviosly more people in the world then people that live in Italy. so obviously there are going to be more fans, you need to get a geography lesson, mate.
 

Luca

Senior Member
Apr 22, 2007
12,750
I think the biggest fan base for juve outside italy is in libya (i think its fred's country). The majority of people there r crazy about juve.
yes libya was an italian colony at one point and a certain Claudio Gentile hailed from libya, thats why his nickname was gaddaffi
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,499
I wont "hound" you for your last statement because you explained you said it in a heated moment, but it it came off weird for you in particular because if I understand correctly you are an english Juve fan, who was questionning how a someone supports a team outside their country? hehe.

In your post in overall, I agree with Englands clear issues, but I wouldnt blame Arsenal at all in anyway. England isnt producing international class players, and they as a club only have obligation to make themselves successful (its the obligation of the national youth programs to improve english talent production), and Wenger has been amazing for them to make that happen. Its not like ignoring english players, and more of them not being good enough. If he went on only choosing english players, he would have battle out to pay 20m pound for crap like Bent. Why would anyone restrict themselves like that?
 

Luca

Senior Member
Apr 22, 2007
12,750
I wont "hound" you for your last statement because you explained you said it in a heated moment, but it it came off weird for you in particular because if I understand correctly you are an english Juve fan, who was questionning how a someone supports a team outside their country? hehe.

In your post in overall, I agree with Englands clear issues, but I wouldnt blame Arsenal at all in anyway. England isnt producing international class players, and they as a club only have obligation to make themselves successful (its the obligation of the national youth programs to improve english talent production), and Wenger has been amazing for them to make that happen. Its not like ignoring english players, and more of them not being good enough. If he went on only choosing english players, he would have battle out to pay 20m pound for crap like Bent. Why would anyone restrict themselves like that?
thank you for taking the time to read my post, i'll explain that part which is bolded, I'm Italian, my dad was born and bred in Italy and lived there untill he was 18 he is a juve fan, my grandad was also a juve fan, so I obviously am going to be a juve fan because my dad wouldn't have it anyother way, it runs through my family.

P.S just look at my user profile ;)
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,499
Ahhh ok, I suspected as such a little.

Sometimes its good to defy family, or else I would have turned into a Milanista like my 2 brothers hehe. He tried to bribe me with Milan merchandize and harping on the dream team (best team in the world for years) since I was 7, but thankfully Baggio saved me from that devilish heathen cult...
 

Luca

Senior Member
Apr 22, 2007
12,750
Ahhh ok, I suspected as such a little.

Sometimes its good to defy family, or else I would have turned into a Milanista like my 2 brothers hehe. He tried to bribe me with Milan merchandize and harping on the dream team (best team in the world for years) since I was 7, but thankfully Baggio saved me from that devilish heathen cult...
he should be called san baggio :angel: just for saving you from the diavolo that is milan.
 

Mark

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Latest rumor which is more reasonable is 10m € + Nocerino OR Palladino. Palladino doesn't seem to want to go to Palermo while Zamparini would really like Nocerino.


DP and Amauri played in a friendly game for some players who retired or something.

"It's a dream for any player to have a chance to play for Juve"

"Playing with Del Piero was pure fun, it was an honor playing with him"
 
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