Alvaro Morata (45 Viewers)

[Post Ironic]

He plays lots. He's played 2300 minutes this year already. That's already more than last season, when we played 5 more CL games.

Let's not be ridiculous. We have two top CFs in Morata and Mandzukic. Both of them play lots. Mandzukic has played 2400 minutes.

It's not simple. It's balancing a top level squad, and playing your best players. Morata went 3 months without scoring. He still played regularly, he still plays regularly now. Suggesting a guy with 2300 minutes already is just a bench option is beyond silly.

What's simple is that if he wants to be one of the best forwards in football, he needs to fight for it. This season should help him grow leaps and bounds with that.

 

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[Carlos Primera]

What post ironic just put up is the f'n Gospel!

 

[Osman]

I have a question regarding how the Champions League list works. You can submit 25 A list players but 8 of which must be "Home grown". This is why Marchisio will be on the list even if he is unlikely to participate in most of the games in the group stage. By my rough calculations that would mean we can only have 18 players on there including Marchisio? That would be hugely limiting. However, I noticed that last year we had 23 players on that list. I am a little confused.

It's 8 players trained in Italy and 4 homegrown. If you fulfill both you get 25 roster. If you fail as we did with 4 home grown part, we are limited to 23.


Only way to be limited to even smaller squad is because of FFP restrictions, like PSG were, think they had 21 player squad.

 

[Xperd]

It's 8 players trained in Italy and 4 homegrown. If you fulfill both you get 25 roster. If you fail as we did with 4 home grown part, we are limited to 23.


Only way to be limited to even smaller squad is because of FFP restrictions, like PSG were, think they had 21 player squad.

Ifs actually 4 trained in Italy and 4 trained by the club which makes it 8 in total

A maximum of 25 squad members can be included in the first team, called ‘Over-21 players’, of which four must have been trained at the club, and a further four who have came through the ranks somewhere in Italy.

http://gazzettaworld.gazzetta.it/news/serie-a-squads-shaken-up/?refresh_rum&refresh_ce-cp

I posted this link in the transfer thread and i think this point in particular can be seen as important,

If a team does not have the minimum number of squad members brought through the system at either a club or in Italy, Under-21s can be counted on their final list.

So if we dont have enough home-grown players(only 2 for the moment) can we compensate that by including the likes of Berardi and Mandragora who both are U-21 ?

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And it seems the squad list should be submitted before the first game of the season or when window closes.By that time both Berardi and Rugani would've turned 22 so i suppose they are ineligible to make that list.
Mandragora will be eligible though if we consider that rule.

 

[zizinho]

That's the problem here. He's not playing regularly. He was playing some games when Dybala and Mandzukic were injured or suspended. But he's clearly a backup now.

And they probably can offer better pay.

Being "backup" is not the same as not playing regularly. Hes 5th in games played, 12th in games started and 13th in minutes played in Serie A. He played a total of 44 games (25 starts, he started more than HALF our games this season with two other great forwards to complete with) and 2295 minutes in all competitions. Considering he had about 3-4 months of bad form and that we have 2 other great strikers who have been in better form for a large part of the season + he missed some games due to injuries and suspension, i don't see why playing time is a problem here.

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He plays lots. He's played 2300 minutes this year already. That's already more than last season, when we played 5 more CL games.

Let's not be ridiculous. We have two top CFs in Morata and Mandzukic. Both of them play lots. Mandzukic has played 2400 minutes.

It's not simple. It's balancing a top level squad, and playing your best players. Morata went 3 months without scoring. He still played regularly, he still plays regularly now. Suggesting a guy with 2300 minutes already is just a bench option is beyond silly.

What's simple is that if he wants to be one of the best forwards in football, he needs to fight for it. This season should help him grow leaps and bounds with that.

lol i didnt even see your post and we basically said the same thing

 

[Xperd]

The intention of the Juventus management & Allegri is to keep Morata & they're working for it perhaps with an offer of €20m to Real. [GdM]

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Juventus could reportedly offer €20m to buyout Real Madrid’s Alvaro Morata clause.

The Bianconeri signed the striker in the summer of 2014, but Los Merengues can buy him back either this summer or next, with this year’s fee capped at €30m.

Gianluca Di Marzio’s website notes that if the Spanish giants were to buy Morata this summer, the Old Lady would see a profit of €17m on the deal, once wages and other factors are taken into account.

However, the Juve hierarchy wish to hold on to the forward, so could offer a further €20m to Madrid to get rid of the clause, taking their total outlay to around €40m.

This would make economic sense, as other targets such as Edinson Cavani of Paris Saint-Germain would likely cost at least €40m in transfer fee alone.

Cavani would also command higher wages, and is six years older than Morata, meaning his value will only depreciate.

 

[Hydde]

will that money be enought?

 

[Xperd]

Hopefully.

Lets keep him and fuck Cavani

 

[Nenz]

Will be very very happy to keep him but he'll need to make great strides next season to justify that sort of investment. He needs to make that leap, matching his brilliance with some consistency.

 

[Jem83]

STAY

pls

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In my opinion, the dude is (although just a tad) better than Dybala. Don't flame me for this guys, because I hold Dybala in high regard, I fucking love him. But I think Morata has more to him than the Dyb. I really hope Morata sticks around, it would be wonderful to build an attack around him.

Build the team around the likes of Pogba, Marchisio, Dybala, Morata, Bonucci and Alex Sandro (and Buffon and Barza of course - until they retire). They are the gems that will - if playing alongside suitable players - will bring "the big ears" home to Turin.

 

[Ocelot]

STAY

pls

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In my opinion, the dude is (although just a tad) better than Dybala. Don't flame me for this guys, because I hold Dybala in high regard, I fucking love him. But I think Morata has more to him than the Dyb. I really hope Morata sticks around, it would be wonderful to build an attack around him.

Build the team around the likes of Pogba, Marchisio, Dybala, Morata, Bonucci and Alex Sandro (and Buffon and Barza of course - until they retire). They are the gems that will - if playing alongside suitable players - will bring "the big ears" home to Turin.

Sorry, but wat?

 

[Jem83]

In my opinion he is, but I've already realized I'm in the minority when it comes to that

Both absolutely HAVE to stay, though!!

 

[Dominic]

Yea mr champions League will bring the cup next year.

 

[DAiDEViL]

 

[Hydde]

Boss.

Stay please.

 

[Linebreak]

This guy is going to only get better and better plus he's a UCL specialist. He must stay.

 

[.zero]

Thank you for keeping your head up (no pun intended), Alvaro. I hope you stay in Turin for many years to come.

 

[TheTruth]

He's going to leave the fun and love from Dybala, Pogba, Zaza and Kojo to ice cold egos in Ronaldo, Benzema, Bale and all the rest of them. I just don't see how he's going to enjoy his football in Madrid even though they're his hometown club. Isco is probably leaving too. Don't quite see the benefits of going back to Real if the reports of him wanting a return are true. And if they're going to sell him on, he might as well just stay at Juve.

 

[Hydde]

Madrid prepare to recall Morata?
By Football Italia staff

Real Madrid have reportedly told Juventus and Alvaro Morata that they intend to buy the striker back this summer.
The 23-year-old joined the Bianconeri in the summer of 2014, but Los Merengues inserted a buyback clause into the deal, and they can bring him back for €30m this summer.
Juve want to keep Morata in Turin, but general manager Giuseppe Marotta admitted today that it’s “very complicated”.
Calciomercato believes that stance is borne of Madrid telling the club and player that they intend to bring the forward back this summer.
While Morata’s will would be important up to a point, it’s not clear if the Madrid-native would say no to a return to his boyhood club.
The website states that Real Madrid wanted to bring Morata last summer, but their buyback clause was not valid then.
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[/FONT]The striker could be swiftly sold on, however, as Arsenal, Chelsea, Manchester United and Manchester City are all reported to be interested, though they’d have to part with around €50m.

 

[Fr3sh]

All jokes aside I really do feel for Morata. Would suck to be in his position mainly because he has no say and his beloved boyhood club doesn't give two shits about him and they not even trying hiding it.

I'd rather he stays, because of his own happiness and because he feels at home here. I'd honestly feel super bad for him if he were to be in a Arsenal shirt come late August.


Since he's gone let's fund the Black Brazilian Jesus.