Alex Sandro (75 Viewers)

[JuveJay]

No.

Because we turn into a vagina once we smell big cash.

Yeah that's not true though is it. Because we've sold one player for "big cash" (it was a little more than that), and already rejected a big bid for the player in question here.

Ultimately players do have price tags, the club isn't run as the plaything for an oil baron or head of state, it's a business that has to answer to shareholders. Rightly so we only concern ourselves with the sporting side and want all the best players, but so does everyone else.

 

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[Dostoevsky]

Yeah that's not true though is it. Because we've sold one player for "big cash" (it was a little more than that), and already rejected a big bid for the player in question here.

Ultimately players do have price tags, the club isn't run as the plaything for an oil baron or head of state, it's a business that has to answer to shareholders. Rightly so we only concern ourselves with the sporting side and want all the best players, but so does everyone else.

You're right. It doesn't have to be big cash in order for us to sell him. We sold Vidal for peanuts.

What we rejected is all on the media side. Also, it really means nothing but a negotiations if we rejected but end up selling in the end.

I'm not talking about good or bad moves. It's just a fact that we DO sell players when a good offer arrives. Some were living in lies saying how we're not a selling club and that's all BS. They shut their mouth once we sold Pogba. But we also sold Vidal and Coman.

'unless player wants to leave' is a huge deal here. We're talking about top players here and not mediocre ones who'd gladly finish their career here while sitting on the bench. Our best players were and will be wanted by the best clubs who do have the money at their disposal. It's literally like we're telling them: if you bid high enough, you can have our players. Because players would hardly reject top clubs and higher wages -- which is something they are offering.

I don't care if we're 9th richest club out there according to economistis who see only numbers and not the whole picture here. Numbers per se mean nothing if you're not investing (as much as others) and they don't mean much if we're spending big only if we sell big. Our strategy differs from Real, City and others. And people should realize that. We're focusing on developing young players and big talents while we buy safe-ish quality. Our club being friendly towards players means only encouragement for them to come here in order to advance in their career but also move on if they show what they're capable of. It's Real and others that will/can buy them if they want to, once they reach that level. Because we wouldn't say no.

 

[lgorTudor]

Yeah that's not true though is it. Because we've sold one player for "big cash" (it was a little more than that), and already rejected a big bid for the player in question here.

Ultimately players do have price tags, the club isn't run as the plaything for an oil baron or head of state, it's a business that has to answer to shareholders. Rightly so we only concern ourselves with the sporting side and want all the best players, but so does everyone else.

What was, for you, the last transfer summer we left with a stronger squad than we entered?

 

[JuveJay]

What was, for you, the last transfer summer we left with a stronger squad than we entered?

Last summer. Pogba, Morata, Caceres, Padoin, Pereyra out - Higuain, Pjanic, Cuadrado, Dani Alves, Benatia, Pjaca in. At the time it didn't seem it but the summer window before also turned out very well. Before that it's negligible because the level of the squad wasn't the high level it is now.

Squad failings (lack of rotation options up front) in the latter part of last season are down to the change in formation. Serious injury to Pjaca and the ongoing rehab of Marchisio also contributed to this. What I wouldn't be surprised with is if the squad we start with next season looks stronger than last, given the probability that we will rectify those issues. Schick is almost signed and we're after at least one winger and a DM.

We definitely start off the season with a worse right back. The season after next we'll definitely start off with a worse goalkeeper and central defence. Could have been worse, it could have been all three at once...You have to look at the projections and age of the squad as well.

Don't listen to me, 70% of our esteemed members rated the mercato as either an 8 or 9 out of 10 for last summer: http://www.juventuz.com/threads/42767-Rate-Juve-s-mercato.

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You're right. It doesn't have to be big cash in order for us to sell him. We sold Vidal for peanuts.

What we rejected is all on the media side. Also, it really means nothing but a negotiations if we rejected but end up selling in the end.

I'm not talking about good or bad moves. It's just a fact that we DO sell players when a good offer arrives. Some were living in lies saying how we're not a selling club and that's all BS. They shut their mouth once we sold Pogba. But we also sold Vidal and Coman.

'unless player wants to leave' is a huge deal here. We're talking about top players here and not mediocre ones who'd gladly finish their career here while sitting on the bench. Our best players were and will be wanted by the best clubs who do have the money at their disposal. It's literally like we're telling them: if you bid high enough, you can have our players. Because players would hardly reject top clubs and higher wages -- which is something they are offering.

I don't care if we're 9th richest club out there according to economistis who see only numbers and not the whole picture here. Numbers per se mean nothing if you're not investing (as much as others) and they don't mean much if we're spending big only if we sell big. Our strategy differs from Real, City and others. And people should realize that. We're focusing on developing young players and big talents while we buy safe-ish quality. Our club being friendly towards players means only encouragement for them to come here in order to advance in their career but also move on if they show what they're capable of. It's Real and others that will/can buy them if they want to, once they reach that level. Because we wouldn't say no.

We buy talents like Schick and Dybala while they are younger because they are cheaper then as well....because we can't buy them when they are established €100m+ players.

Like I said, we've rejected most of the big bids for our players, the proof is there. We've sold two players for 'considerable' money, and the Vidal one was definitely not a financial or technical choice. I wonder how many bids we have rejected in that time for Bonucci, Dybala, Pogba (before he went for a world record), Rugani, who are ones I can remember being strongly linked away. I'm pretty sure we rejected a lot more for Vidal a year or two before he was sold. Well that is if we take transfer rumours or Marotta's comments as gospel. That guy also lies a lot, it is part of his job whether he means to deceive or the position changes. It's the same with all of them.

Andrea Agnelli has stated numerous times about our financial position relative to others, so it's not really important whether you care or not, it's the position we are in. The club is doing good work but it's a longstanding problem playing in this relic league.

 

[Albo]

"Sandro said yes to Chelsea, deal to be closed shortly" [CorSera]


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[radekas]

If we sell Sandro we really are a feeder club after all.

 

[DUKAC]

No. Actually it says; "We have no intention of selling anyone, but if a player decides to leave... then at the end of the day he has to go."

Quite clear really.

According to this we are the most democratic club in the world where the departures of the players depends solely on their will,so ,as you say, a player decides to go ,then that's it.Very,very good policy.I heard that Bayern as a first team among many others will follow this brilliant new policy of ours.

 

[il brutto]

According to this we are the most democratic club in the world where the departures of the players depends solely on their will,so ,as you say, a player decides to go ,then that's it.Very,very good policy.I heard that first Bayern as a first team among many others will follow this brilliant new policy of ours.

Good to know.

 

[Zacheryah]

Why does Sandro want to go to chelsea ?


He could just refuse and say no.



In fact, Isco and James have repeatedly refused to go even if Madrid seemingly wanted to, publically.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Why does Sandro want to go to chelsea ?


He could just refuse and say no.



In fact, Isco and James have repeatedly refused to go even if Madrid seemingly wanted to, publically.

Real Madrid is a mecca for every footballer while juventus is a genoa for top footballers outside of italy

 

[DUKAC]

Fucking conte
Fucking oil rich pricks
Fucking juve acting like pussy

We are practicing a new discipline :democracy in sport Players are the first and last to decide about their destiny.The club is only a mediator and have no part in the decision of departure.Was "invented" by Marotta and is performed every time he wants to give an excuse for selling a player.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Why does Sandro want to go to chelsea ?

He could just refuse and say no.

Pepole were saying the same when Manchester wanted Pogba. Do you remember how many members laughed? We all saw what happened in the end.

You're right, though, he could just refuse and say no. But he can also say yes and leave us. It's always two-sided.

 

[ZoSo]

"Sandro said yes to Chelsea, deal to be closed shortly" [CorSera]


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[Sjaban]

It's practicing a new discipline :democracy in sport Players are the first and last to decide about their destiny.The club is only a mediator and have no part in the decision of departure.Was "invented" by Marotta and is performed every time he wants to give an excuse for selling a player.

This, pretty devastating news though. I don't see us getting anyone similar to Sandro in the next 10 years..


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[DUKAC]

This, pretty devastating news though. I don't see us getting anyone similar to Sandro in the next 10 years..


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Don't worry.A lot of ,maximum,Darmians and De Sciglios are around the corner.And the shareholders will be satisfied with this move also.A win -win situation for Marotta.Anyway ,we will win CL,"soon."... .Be sure that Alegri ,as opposite of the players doesn't have any role in saying yes or no to this transfer.And he have to start again with 3-4 new players tuning in the system.

 

[Gep]

We can say no. We've done it in the past let's not forget that. I think the board are more than happy to accept A.Sandro for £60m. Certain players are a no-no but everyone has their price and Sandro has reached his. We're obviously confident in finding a Sandro replacement and still have money left over to strengthen the squad.

Unless your Italian you'll feel like a king in Italy with us.

 

[DUKAC]

No.

Because we turn into a vagina once we smell big cash.

This.Utmost plastic explanation.

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You're right. It doesn't have to be big cash in order for us to sell him. We sold Vidal for peanuts.

What we rejected is all on the media side. Also, it really means nothing but a negotiations if we rejected but end up selling in the end.

I'm not talking about good or bad moves. It's just a fact that we DO sell players when a good offer arrives. Some were living in lies saying how we're not a selling club and that's all BS. They shut their mouth once we sold Pogba. But we also sold Vidal and Coman.

'unless player wants to leave' is a huge deal here. We're talking about top players here and not mediocre ones who'd gladly finish their career here while sitting on the bench. Our best players were and will be wanted by the best clubs who do have the money at their disposal. It's literally like we're telling them: if you bid high enough, you can have our players. Because players would hardly reject top clubs and higher wages -- which is something they are offering.

I don't care if we're 9th richest club out there according to economistis who see only numbers and not the whole picture here. Numbers per se mean nothing if you're not investing (as much as others) and they don't mean much if we're spending big only if we sell big. Our strategy differs from Real, City and others. And people should realize that. We're focusing on developing young players and big talents while we buy safe-ish quality. Our club being friendly towards players means only encouragement for them to come here in order to advance in their career but also move on if they show what they're capable of. It's Real and others that will/can buy them if they want to, once they reach that level. Because we wouldn't say no.

This.You have a point in every word.

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Real Madrid is a mecca for every footballer while juventus is a genoa for top footballers outside of italy

It hurts but probably I have to agree with you about this.

 

[Nenz]

We'll have downgraded both left and right back after this mercato. If Alex Sandro has in fact requested to leave then a worrying trend is emerging. Is it a matter of wages or are some players just not buying in the clubs project?

 

[DUKAC]

And we will all see that the actual transfer wouldn't go for 70 mil,but something between 55-60 mil.Watch and see.I don't say that this is a small amount but no 70 mil. in the story.

 

[Bianconero Vero]

Every damn summer

Next summer Dybala to Barcelona.