Alessio Secco (3 Viewers)

[sateeh]

take a chill pill pal

i can't believe i am saying this but in defense of Mr Secco

if ivanovic was any good he would've at least made the bench for chelsea. Don't you think ?

Zalayeta's value actually increased than last season as he has added more value to their team. And the same goes for blasi.

He didn't finish the milito deal and look at how hes playing these days.The guy is horrible. And we will wait and see about the deals of next season.

 

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[Salvo]

take a chill pill pal

i can't believe i am saying this but in defense of Mr Secco

if ivanovic was any good he would've at least made the bench for chelsea. Don't you think ?

Zalayeta's value actually increased than last season as he has added more value to their team. And the same goes for blasi.

He didn't finish the milito deal and look at how hes playing these days.The guy is horrible. And we will wait and see about the deals of next season.

his mistakes out number his correct decisions.

 

[Osman]

Also we have :

-He refused an offer from Benfica to sign Miccoli, then selling him to Palermo for pennies

-He failed to sell Zalayeta and Blasi to Napoli, just sold their halves for some change

- He didnt notice a talented player such as Hamsik when he was playing in Serie B against us, then failed to sign him from Napoli this season

-Failed to finish the deal of Ivanovic, he just kept "interested" in him till Chelsea signed him

-He blew many chances to sign several players, and just stood "interested" till they signed to other clubs or got more expensive


But I think that what's even worse than those things he did, are the things he WILL DO:

1- buying Amauri in the exchange of Marchionni + Crisito + Nocerino + 10 mill, then he'll add Giovinco to pay only 8 mill instead of 10

2-After Signing Amauri we'll have 5 strikers, so he will send Iaquinta to Siena for the other half of De ceglie


3-Exchanging Marchesio +De Ceglie + the other half of Zalayeta for Hamsik and buying back Napoli's half of Blasi

4- Sending Palladino to Arsenal + 5 mill for Gilberto Silva

5- 10 mill + Chiellini+Hamsik for Lampard, then loaning him to Siena to gain Serie A Experience

6- Monaco will offer to buy Almiron but he'll refuse cuz we need a CM

so next year we'll be like:


----------------------Amauri
---------------------Tiago----Almiron
--------Zanetti---Sissoko----Blasi-----Gilberto Silva
--------------Molinaro-----Legro------Grygera
-------------------------Buffon


After Nedved's retirement, Camo's injury, DP's suicide and Trez being benched by Amauri after his zero score sheet due to lack of scoring chances

Secco is imcompetent enough, but this convenient and retarded crap gotta frigging stop. Your whole post is frigging childish bullshit. Ever heard of constructive criticism? You take the meaning of spin to a whole a new ridicolous level.

I would understand if they were jokes or facetious banter, but this insanely bitter propoganda machine against this hack gotta fucking stop because its so ridicolously whinny and moronic (start yelping bäää because alot of you are acting like sheep already). Some frigging nuances and realism is in order, its like too many of you's approach to this is: Like if Secco was a singular murderer, you would all jump aggressively proclaim him to be the worst mass genocidal murder in human history. Like reality isnt enough, you JUST have to reach after invented and convenient fantasy to tar him with, bullshit reasons and scenarios that change in your minds every day.

All the nonsensical invented bullshit he is blamed for is starting to annoy me more then the incompetent crap he has done.


P.S Simply put, he has made more mistakes then great decisions, but STILL thats not enough for you to criticise him with, you juuuuuuust have to take it to thousands more in the exaggeration meter. If I didnt know you better, I would think this forum is filled with paranoid schizos.

 

[David01]

all this critisim is based on whatever is handed to us by the media
nothing we think we 'know' can be verified it all comes to us from papers, blogs and reports from dubious sources
one thing we actually know is that we are interested in Amauri and all else is speculation
I cannot believe some of you keep falling for all the crap
don't you understand they make up these headlines to sell
they have put Ronaldinho up for sale for years now, he has signed dozens of contracts for Milan, and now Inter
they also know Secco wasn't trustworthy among Juve fans from the day he took over from Moggi due to his age and lack of experience
and now they make it look like everything that goes wrong at this club or we simply think is going wrong is because of Secco
if there is a deal with Amauri there is no way Palermo were first offered Giovinco or any other youngster and then Marchionni
you can't come back on a deal with an inferior proposal
so once and for all cut this crap, you are being played by the media and again and again you believe every word that is written
I know it is unfair from my part I know some of you do have brains but in general think before you post any dumbass remark
stop blaming everything on Secco based on biased sources, they want problems in the Juve camp cuz reports about this sells newspapers
I'm not saying Secco is perfect, he probably has made mistakes but who is perfect?
Moggi? he got caught, now didn't he

 

[DiDoz]

Secco is imcompetent enough, but this convenient and retarded crap gotta frigging stop. Your whole post is frigging childish bullshit. Ever heard of constructive criticism? You take the meaning of spin to a whole a new ridicolous level.

I would understand if they were jokes or facetious banter, but this insanely bitter propoganda machine against this hack gotta fucking stop because its so ridicolously whinny and moronic (start yelping bäää because alot of you are acting like sheep already). Some frigging nuances and realism is in order, its like too many of you's approach to this is: Like if Secco was a singular murderer, you would all jump aggressively proclaim him to be the worst mass genocidal murder in human history. Like reality isnt enough, you JUST have to reach after invented and convenient fantasy to tar him with, bullshit reasons and scenarios that change in your minds every day.

All the nonsensical invented bullshit he is blamed for is starting to annoy me more then the incompetent crap he has done.


P.S Simply put, he has made more mistakes then great decisions, but STILL thats not enough for you to criticise him with, you juuuuuuust have to take it to thousands more in the exaggeration meter. If I didnt know you better, I would think this forum is filled with paranoid schizos.

all this critisim is based on whatever is handed to us by the media
nothing we think we 'know' can be verified it all comes to us from papers, blogs and reports from dubious sources
one thing we actually know is that we are interested in Amauri and all else is speculation
I cannot believe some of you keep falling for all the crap
don't you understand they make up these headlines to sell
they have put Ronaldinho up for sale for years now, he has signed dozens of contracts for Milan, and now Inter
they also know Secco wasn't trustworthy among Juve fans from the day he took over from Moggi due to his age and lack of experience
and now they make it look like everything that goes wrong at this club or we simply think is going wrong is because of Secco
if there is a deal with Amauri there is no way Palermo were first offered Giovinco or any other youngster and then Marchionni
you can't come back on a deal with an inferior proposal
so once and for all cut this crap, you are being played by the media and again and again you believe every word that is written
I know it is unfair from my part I know some of you do have brains but in general think before you post any dumbass remark
stop blaming everything on Secco based on biased sources, they want problems in the Juve camp cuz reports about this sells newspapers
I'm not saying Secco is perfect, he probably has made mistakes but who is perfect?
Moggi? he got caught, now didn't he

OK I admit the post was silly, but I was and still pissed off, maybe these rumors are media bullshit as you say, that's what I thought first

But When you wake up everyday reading that Secco's gonna exchange Amauri with Giovinco or somthing retarded as that, you have to worry, considering the terrible short black history of Secco and the board

Why cant anybody talk to the media to calm us down, havent they hear yet any of these rumors????

All I need is anyone from Juve management saying "it's bullshit", because all we're getting are stupid actions from Secco and stupid statements from Ranieri , why cant they use the media properly just once???

Yes I'm starting to believe that we're gonna hear about a retarded transfer soon, and since nobody is denying the rumors, which are many and from different sources, nobody blames me

Can anybody see the difference between what we hear from Milan board and what we hear from ours? I cant imagine how can anybody trust Secco or our stupid board, we were listing the magnificent transfers of our board to assure that they can do anything however stupid they sound

And Osman: Calm down , it's not like you're related to him or something, and if you're gonna get pissed that bad by every silly post, you'll explode soon

 

[Osman]

Hehe sorry for the tone, but its not about you by any stretch of the means, its just reading several months of the same crap, when you expect people to use their God given mind now and then and apply simple logic, it gets annoying. I know they know better, but they still are so eager to act like sheep to the media.

And IMO the problem some months ago was our team was getting unprofessional in how the management commented on EVERY little thing in the media. |It was getting ridicolous, weekly comments of Cobolli, Blanc and at times by Ranieri (most of his comments were invented). They were playing into the media's hands and making our club look unprofessional and desperate (even when they said good obvious things, just by saying it they were playing into the media and feeding the frenzy, one comment of the boards, and the media would spin something out of it for weeks and weeks).

So that they no longer play into the hands of the media and comment on every bullshit is a GOOD thing. Let their crappy propoganda spin continue, but the only reason they continue is not because they hate us, but they realised how easily Juventini want to vent and project their frustrations, so they cater to consumers who jump and bit on every little fantasy they cook up, instead of take the seconds it only needs to realise these media crap is quite false typical stuff they do to sell papers as easily as possible (and its not many diffferent sources, they all repeat eachothers crap, recycle it to no end).

I get you saying you are starting to believe you are going to hear something retardedly big deal soon, its called buying into propoganda (or wanting to buy into it badly, I have seen grave contradictions of the media crap ignored, and just fuck you Secco yelled in tune, as I said ok if its banter, but alot is serious...). If you assess the article based on reality, regardless of how imcompetent our board is, think for a second, why would our board who has seen our out loaned youngsters who has impressed (Giovinco best in Azzurini and one of the best talents in the world), switch them all for Cigarini of Parma (most ridicolous ever) or Amauri + sum of money? How does this make little sense? In essence, bascially just take time to analyze it.

 

[only-juve]

Hehe sorry for the tone, but its not about you by any stretch of the means, its just reading several months of the same crap, when you expect people to use their God given mind now and then and apply simple logic, it gets annoying. I know they know better, but they still are so eager to act like sheep to the media.

And IMO the problem some months ago was our team was getting unprofessional in how the management commented on EVERY little thing in the media. |It was getting ridicolous, weekly comments of Cobolli, Blanc and at times by Ranieri (most of his comments were invented). They were playing into the media's hands and making our club look unprofessional and desperate (even when they said good obvious things, just by saying it they were playing into the media and feeding the frenzy, one comment of the boards, and the media would spin something out of it for weeks and weeks).

So that they no longer play into the hands of the media and comment on every bullshit is a GOOD thing. Let their crappy propoganda spin continue, but the only reason they continue is not because they hate us, but they realised how easily Juventini want to vent and project their frustrations, so they cater to consumers who jump and bit on every little fantasy they cook up, instead of take the seconds it only needs to realise these media crap is quite false typical stuff they do to sell papers as easily as possible (and its not many diffferent sources, they all repeat eachothers crap, recycle it to no end).

I get you saying you are starting to believe you are going to hear something retardedly big deal soon, its called buying into propoganda (or wanting to buy into it badly, I have seen grave contradictions of the media crap ignored, and just fuck you Secco yelled in tune, as I said ok if its banter, but alot is serious...). If you assess the article based on reality, regardless of how imcompetent our board is, think for a second, why would our board who has seen our out loaned youngsters who has impressed (Giovinco best in Azzurini and one of the best talents in the world), switch them all for Cigarini of Parma (most ridicolous ever) or Amauri + sum of money? How does this make little sense? In essence, bascially just take time to analyze it.

Man i don't believe a single thing from the media till its confirmed by our club. But this doesn't change the fact that secco is a disastor no one can even argue about that. I really really hope that he does a great job in juve (its for the club's sake afterall). This job is just too big for him he can't handle it. The dumpest move that i have ever seen in my life (i've been watching european football now for 14 years) is loaning out criscito in the middle of the season when we have a shortage in defence and loaning in another defender in his place !!! What was that

 

[DiDoz]

I agree with you if we're talking about a professional board, but I am quite sure that we'll lose one or 2 promising youngsters in silly deals, maybe Secco wont let go Gio or Chiellini but Crisito, De Ceglie, Nocerino, Palladino, Marchesio and Mirante among others aren't safe though

I dont trust Secco and our board, they had many mistakes in the past, and by how they're starting the transfer season (focusing on Amauri and forgetting about creativity and defense problems), they give me a feeling that they didnt learn anything from last 2 seasons

 

[Osman]

Secco is pretty bad, no two ways about it. Thats beside the point because I will be in first line if it was about lynching him for his acts, but not the 100 times more worse crap that gets invented daily.

Believing that insane low level spin just makes you sheep getting shagged by the horny media

Get in line

http://growabrain.typepad.com/growabrain/sheep.jpg

 

[only-juve]

Secco is pretty bad, no two ways about it. Thats beside the point because I will be in first line if it was about lynching him for his acts, but not the 100 times more worse crap that gets invented daily.

Believing that insane low level spin just makes you sheep getting shagged by the horny media
Get in line

http://growabrain.typepad.com/growabrain/sheep.jpg

yeah thats true.....

 

[ZhiXin]

I agree with you if we're talking about a professional board, but I am quite sure that we'll lose one or 2 promising youngsters in silly deals, maybe Secco wont let go Gio or Chiellini but Crisito, De Ceglie, Nocerino, Palladino, Marchesio and Mirante among others aren't safe though

I dont trust Secco and our board, they had many mistakes in the past, and by how they're starting the transfer season (focusing on Amauri and forgetting about creativity and defense problems), they give me a feeling that they didnt learn anything from last 2 seasons

Sure i understand how you feel. But you are twisting the post to a new level of speculations that may/may not happen. Just relax will you?

If you have been following the media for quite some time, it only givrs speculation all the time, making you believe things will happen when it does not. Pay attention to the word Official and you know it is confirmed. About Amauri, I don't intent to pay much attention to it because I know the media is recycling the same tactics again to make more $$$ to attract readers.

About the lot of youngsters mentioned, I will only take Gio, Marchisio and De Ceglie for Juventus next season. Palladino should learn how to keep his head on the ground. Mirante can be sold. The rest need to go on loan to gain some experience

 

[David01]

people here need to relax a little bit, they get worked up too often over non-existing stories
I'll give you an example, a player or even one of his relatives has been spotted drinking a cup of coffee at a Turin bar and the media start linking him to Juve or Torino for all I care, pure speculation - he or she could very well be simply enjoying a nice cup of coffee and then we pick up this 'story' and start arguing, debating and speculation over something that is speculation to begin with
simply put speculation over speculation, hardly a reason to kill your self as I've read earlier on this thread, out of a hundred stories that are written by the media maybe 5 may actually have some ground of truth in them
most of these stories are fictional, fun to read but nothing more and not to be taken too seriously
I wouldn't kill myself or anyone else over this

 

[Red]

 

[Salvo]

SECCO: MY TRANSFERS HAVE BEEN IMPECCABLE.

secco was appointed as Juventus’ Head of Sporting Activities at the beginning of the 2006/07 season – essentially replacing transfer guru Luciano Moggi, who of course left the club after the Calciopoli crisis.

Secco has been criticised almost unanimously by Juventus fans following a long-line of disastrous transfers.

Grievances include the signings of Jean-Alain Boumsong, Tiago Mendes and Sergio Almiron for a combined €30m, as well as the sale of Adrian Mutu, and the attempted sale of Giorgio Chiellini.

Despite this Secco appears to be more than happy with the work that has been done in the transfer market since 2006.

“Sometimes we regret certain decisions, in the market no man is immune from mistakes, and speaking with hindsight is too easy,” Secco told Tuttosport.

“I sometimes regret having let Mutu leave but everything happened in a dramatic moment in our history. Rafa Benitez perhaps regrets letting Momo Sissoko go.

“But those who have signed for Juve over the past couple of seasons, I think they have been impeccable."

Secco’s one moment of credit, even if it was Claudio Ranieri who really demanded his purchase, regards the January signing of the aforementioned Sissoko from Liverpool.

The signing was hugely criticised by the majority of Italian journalists, and by Juventus fans, however Sissoko has had an excellent start to his career in Turin, proving many of his doubters wrong.

"Sissoko? It is no secret that we followed him for more than one year, in the end we were able to buy him, but, in all honesty, Momo has gone beyond our expectations.

“Today, in my opinion, he is the best midfielder in our league.”

Gianni Wilson





is he on crack? the only good signing he has made is sissoko.

 

[Arvin]

SECCO: MY TRANSFERS HAVE BEEN IMPECCABLE.

secco was appointed as Juventus’ Head of Sporting Activities at the beginning of the 2006/07 season – essentially replacing transfer guru Luciano Moggi, who of course left the club after the Calciopoli crisis.

Secco has been criticised almost unanimously by Juventus fans following a long-line of disastrous transfers.

Grievances include the signings of Jean-Alain Boumsong, Tiago Mendes and Sergio Almiron for a combined €30m, as well as the sale of Adrian Mutu, and the attempted sale of Giorgio Chiellini.

Despite this Secco appears to be more than happy with the work that has been done in the transfer market since 2006.

“Sometimes we regret certain decisions, in the market no man is immune from mistakes, and speaking with hindsight is too easy,” Secco told Tuttosport.

“I sometimes regret having let Mutu leave but everything happened in a dramatic moment in our history. Rafa Benitez perhaps regrets letting Momo Sissoko go.

“But those who have signed for Juve over the past couple of seasons, I think they have been impeccable."

Secco’s one moment of credit, even if it was Claudio Ranieri who really demanded his purchase, regards the January signing of the aforementioned Sissoko from Liverpool.

The signing was hugely criticised by the majority of Italian journalists, and by Juventus fans, however Sissoko has had an excellent start to his career in Turin, proving many of his doubters wrong.

"Sissoko? It is no secret that we followed him for more than one year, in the end we were able to buy him, but, in all honesty, Momo has gone beyond our expectations.

“Today, in my opinion, he is the best midfielder in our league.”

Gianni Wilson





is he on crack? the only good signing he has made is sissoko.

wasnt it raaineri descision to sign him??

 

[Salvo]

wasnt it raaineri descision to sign him??

i beleive so. secco is so in denial.


he probably talk so to himself in the mirror.

"oh secco you transfer guru you"

he needs to wake up!

 

[Arvin]

than he is on crack....

 

[cunninlynguists]

Secco cut the crap...

 

[sateeh]

i beleive so. secco is so in denial.


he probably talk so to himself in the mirror.

"oh secco you transfer guru you"

he needs to wake up!

 

[Firestarter]

What the fuck is Secco smoking these days...