Sorry Cron,i dont agree.There are many other prestigious clubs that have overpaid for players that have not performed that have huge hype surrounded by them(Quaresma).I was sceptical about him but things are really looking postive as of late & to dismiss the work done is just plain wrong.
True, many other prestigious clubs have overpaid for some players they got,
but they were not manipulated as we did.
As for the performance, i dont blame Secco for that, his job ends when the season starts IMO
Things are indeed looking positive now!!
And if it was like that from the beginning, i would never make an issue about it!
How do you know its not his negotiation skills that got Diego & Melo? You dont,none of us do but atleast we can give him the benefit of the doubt.Lets not dwell on the negatives all the time as we'll just lose out on enjoying the moment.The club is secure financially,we have a young coach that will give the youngsters a chance & most importantly we are signing players of quality.
We can forget what we have seen and experienced in this and the previous transfer sagas. If it was Secco's first year, i would give him the benefit of doubt,
but he is trying to sell some certain players for 3 years and he is keep failing!
First gave him the benefit of doubt, then i gave him a second chance,
but now i know, i am certain of his weakness!!
(selling players for decent amounts)
25 million for Diego and Melo are steals at what we paid for them. Manchester City are on the brink of Signing Lescott for 24 million, they signed Tevez and Adebayor for 25 million. Are you telling me these 3 players are bargains. Also Manchester United paid 32.5 million for Berbatov?. Who has totally flopped.
25 mil for Diego is a very good price, considering his team, place, potential value and will to join us!
But 25mil Melo and gifting them Marchionni+CZ too, is not!!
And it is not the first time we do business with Fiorentina
and every time we give the squad players for peanuts and always overpay for our acquisitions!
And Adebayor for 25mil is a bargain!!!
Juventino[RUS];2116793 said:
pffffffff, can people on this forum stop talkin about how much Secco overpayed for Melo!?!??!
It becomes an issue because we are not Real and we could have used some of the very limited money we have for a couple of fullbacks!
It is only a part of the argumentation though and i agree it should not be used solely for criticism.
IMO, if we were not getting owned on the Criscito deal,
if we were making a better profit from Marchionni, Mellberg, Almiron, CZ, Zala, Palla etc
we could afford to pay as we did and still get a fullback.
Ferrara was asking for defenders from the very beginning,
our transfer/fund management and managerial priorities have failed (so far)
to get those.
IMO we had the available resources and the necessary time to find and acquire one permanent solution, Secco is apparently one of the main reasons we didnt!
Cronios, will you stop being a knee jerk on the Melo thing? it had nothing to do with negotiations, Fiorentina signed a contract with him that has a release clause. Juventus paid the clause and got him. There was absolutely no room for negotiations. So drop it already.
icεmαή;2116946 said:
Why do people complain for the sake of complaining?
I know about the clause, but you also know that clauses are not respected,
you know about our transfer history with that certain team
and you know that 2 more of our players ended up there.
If Melo was our only problem, i wouldnt care and i still dont consider it a reason to bash Secco. But he is not at any case worthy of praise for finalizing deals that,
as you have said had no room for negotiation.
To make this clear to all once again!
I am not bashing Secco this year, i am pleased with the acquisitions we made (bar the ignorance of our defensive issue, but thats not entirely Secco's fault)
I m very displeased (once again) with the way we handled the contracts/players we owned, respectively our sales/loans.
There is constant in our negotiation business, we buy expensive and we sell cheap, what this demonstrates and who is to blame???
The one some of you praise...
How can you praise a man who had cost us at least 50 mil,
how can you forget that??
Why wouldnt you have him replaced with someone who knows what he is doing?
He barely did his duty this year?? (decent buys, horrible sales)
You may believe in him yes, be pleased with his work this year, understandable, but praise him??? Come oooon....
This is not about being positive or negative.
This is about accepting the facts and the truth!
Secco has ruined us in the past
and because if him we have lost many millions, thats a fact!!!
Secco is unable to sale players for a decent amount, thats a fact!!!
Secco until now, was unable to bring prestigious player, despite having the necessary means to do that, that has changed!!! It is an improvement!!
Enough to make us smile at last, but not enough to erase everything else!