Abortion, good or bad? (15 Viewers)

Nicole

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Sep 16, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by gray ] ++

AFAIK, DIY abortion jobs (if you'll excuse the acronyms) aren't a major factor in the abortion debate. Do you have a source regarding the prevalence of teenagers aborting their own children because they didn't otherwise have access to the 'service'?

There's a big difference between clean syringe distribution to prevent the spread of disease, and discouraging women from inserting forceps into their wombs :)
Obvious those stories I dont hear that often, it is legal in the UK so that isnt much of an issue, but you do have to look at what happened years ago, when people would get 'backstreet' abortions (I did this in RE for GCSE)

PS. What does AFAIK mean???
 

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adams

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Mar 5, 2005
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++ [ originally posted by Nicole ] ++


Obvious those stories I dont hear that often, it is legal in the UK so that isnt much of an issue, but you do have to look at what happened years ago, when people would get 'backstreet' abortions (I did this in RE for GCSE)

PS. What does AFAIK mean???

i always KNEW there was something funny about those backstreet boys :groan:

"backstreet's back alright!" :down:
 

Cronios

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Jun 7, 2004
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We are in the 21st century FFS!
All the parametres sould be considered:
Medical,SOCIAL,Philosophical etc etc

when a birth would create more problems than an abortion,
the second sould be selected
 
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Chxta

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    ++ [ originally posted by Paolo_Montero ] ++
    chxta 1/4 of your argument can be easily dismissed. Religion should have no influence on such an important topic. For the individual, yes, but for a country to even take into account religious beliefs upon making the decision would be laughable.
    ++ [ originally posted by chxta ] ++
    Mikhail was right. This thread's going nowhere. Those of us anti-abortionists are sticking to our guns as are the pro-abortionists.
     
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    Chxta

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    Mods what are you waiting for? :D

    Meantime 2-2 Deu:Mex, Deu have had Hanke sent off. Interesting...
     
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    Chxta

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    Doctors are to reopen the abortion debate with a vote on whether to lower the legal limit for abortions.

    Terminations are allowed up to 24 weeks, but the time limit has been questioned as medical progress improved premature baby survival rates.

    This is the first time the British Medical Association conference has debated abortion limits since 1989.

    It follows recent calls from some politicians for the limit to be lowered to 20 weeks.


    ABORTION RATES PER 1,000 WOMEN AGED 15 TO 44
    1969 - 5.3
    1979 - 12
    1989 - 15.5
    1999 - 16.2
    2003 - 16.6


    Dr Vivienne Nathanson, the BMA's head of science and ethics, said: "Medical advancements mean that some babies born before 24 weeks are surviving.

    "The majority still die, but because more live than they used to - quite often with disabilities - it is time to have this debate."

    A number of motions have been put forward by doctors, ranging from keeping the status quo to reducing the limit to 20 weeks in line with what some campaigners have been demanding.

    However, it is planned delegates will only be asked to vote on a motion which calls for an unspecified reduction in the upper limit.

    Less than 1% of the 190,000 abortions a year in England and Wales are carried out after 22 weeks with 87% before 13 weeks.

    But the abortion rate has more than trebled since it was legalised in 1969.

    Moral issues

    Campaigners remain divided over whether the upper limit for abortion should be altered.

    Pro-life group Life said it supported moves to lower the legal limit as long as it did not lead to abortions being made much easier to access early on.

    A spokeswoman said: "Our message to doctors would be that it is a sensible proposal to reduce the time limit for abortion in line with advances that have been made."

    But other campaign groups disagreed.

    Paul Tully, general secretary of the Society for the Protection of Unborn Children said he felt any review of the abortion laws by MPs could lead to a relaxation of the rules, and an increase, rather than a decrease, in abortions.

    He said there needed to be a debate on the moral issues of terminating pregnancies.

    And the British Pregnancy Advisory Service, which carried out 50,000 abortions last year, has sent an open letter to BMA members ahead of their vote urging them to reject a reduction.

    Chief executive Ann Furedi said: "If the time limit is lowered some women will be forced to become unwilling mothers.

    "Others will travel abroad for legal abortion in other countries."
    From BBC
     
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    Chxta

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    I'm so bored right now. The office is half empty because most of the guys are on leave, I can't go on leave cos I am saving money, the love of my life is at the other end of town in her parents...

    THERE IS NO LEAGUE FOOTBALL TO TALK ABOUT!

    Can it get any worse?
     

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