Able Xavier Converts to Islam (15 Viewers)
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In what way is he insulting Muslims? Didn't Muhammad visit the Kaaba, throwing out the idols literally, destroying them, thus cleansing the Kaaba from the stains of Jahiliyyah? Wasn't this an insult to all those who believed in those idols? I find it rather ridiculous how you Muslims of all people accusing everyone of insulting your "holy religion/book/prophet" whenever they make fun of your beliefs while in fact Muhammad (as well as all the other prophets) allegedly fought with all what you call "credulous beliefs" of those eras. Credulous or not, absurd or reasonable, there were some people who were practicing those beliefs. There were some people who were worshiping handmade idols but Muhammad made a mockery of them by throwing them out. Why didn't he respect those people's beliefs? Because he was a message from God? I hope you realize that not everybody believes that Muhammad was from God and I hope you're aware of the fact that not everyone believes Qoran is a divine book. So if the Muslims believe that what Muhammad did was justified because he wanted to point out the absurdity of those Arabs' cults, you have to acknowledge that for those who don't believe in your prophet what he did was an insult to what the others had as their "holy" beliefs.
If someone comes now and says that he's converted to a cult in which the sun is the creator of all the universe, you'll call it backwards and retarded, won't you? He sure wouldn't be able to back his beliefs but are you able to back yours? Of course not. And as long as you can't come up with a convincing reasoning to prove that there's a God, that Muhammad is his message and that Qoran is his book, you can't do anything but putting up with everyone who calls your beliefs stupid.
The one who worships the sun is going through his cult' instructions; what he believes in, what he holds in absolute holiness. Wouldn't you find it stupid if he kneels to the sun doing his prayers? You would. So I'm telling I find it stupid seeing Muslims in big rows bowing down to literally nothing but a direction. I find it absurd seeing Muslims turning around a cube with all those white apparels. What's the difference here? Only because Muslims are greater in number than those who worship the sun doesn't mean they are right and the others are not.
You know, you, you above all the other people, cannot complain about those who mock your beliefs.
If someone comes now and says that he's converted to a cult in which the sun is the creator of all the universe, you'll call it backwards and retarded, won't you? He sure wouldn't be able to back his beliefs but are you able to back yours? Of course not. And as long as you can't come up with a convincing reasoning to prove that there's a God, that Muhammad is his message and that Qoran is his book, you can't do anything but putting up with everyone who calls your beliefs stupid.
The one who worships the sun is going through his cult' instructions; what he believes in, what he holds in absolute holiness. Wouldn't you find it stupid if he kneels to the sun doing his prayers? You would. So I'm telling I find it stupid seeing Muslims in big rows bowing down to literally nothing but a direction. I find it absurd seeing Muslims turning around a cube with all those white apparels. What's the difference here? Only because Muslims are greater in number than those who worship the sun doesn't mean they are right and the others are not.
You know, you, you above all the other people, cannot complain about those who mock your beliefs.
I'd have no problem with Muslims as i have no problem with Hindus,Jews Budhists or anyone else.
But them is a different story.I'm sick of readin news about how muslims
-are offended by cartoons
-are offended by freakin teddy bears and storm the roads threatening to behead those who dare namin them Mohhamed-
-are offended when 10 years old children eat salami during Ramadan.
-are offended by cricket clubs namin themselves Crusaders
-demand special swimming sessions where women have to dress modestly
these and hundrends other similar stories have been all over the net for the last years on a daily basis.Last May here in Greece hundrends of Pakistanis and Iraquis demonstrated in centre of Athens and burned a lot of cars just because allegedey a cop had teared a page from a Koran belonging to a suspect ...
In their countries they can do whatever they want,they can have their sharia laws,execute gays,cut off thieves hands,i don't give a shit..but until they start
behavin like normal human beings here and respect the countries that give them shelter i won't stop bashin them and their religion.
But them is a different story.I'm sick of readin news about how muslims
-are offended by cartoons
-are offended by freakin teddy bears and storm the roads threatening to behead those who dare namin them Mohhamed-
-are offended when 10 years old children eat salami during Ramadan.
-are offended by cricket clubs namin themselves Crusaders
-demand special swimming sessions where women have to dress modestly
these and hundrends other similar stories have been all over the net for the last years on a daily basis.Last May here in Greece hundrends of Pakistanis and Iraquis demonstrated in centre of Athens and burned a lot of cars just because allegedey a cop had teared a page from a Koran belonging to a suspect ...
In their countries they can do whatever they want,they can have their sharia laws,execute gays,cut off thieves hands,i don't give a shit..but until they start
behavin like normal human beings here and respect the countries that give them shelter i won't stop bashin them and their religion.
I'm tired of the way many French people smell, but that doesn't mean they all smell that way and I should condemn them all as a stinky, rotting lot.
That logical argument would clearly make me a closed-minded simpleton, to be honest -- very much worthy of the "ignoramus" disdain I'm apparently giving off.
That logical argument would clearly make me a closed-minded simpleton, to be honest -- very much worthy of the "ignoramus" disdain I'm apparently giving off.
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fact is the owners of Kaaba converted to islam, and agreed to remove them. The majority became muslim if not 99%, and believed that he was the prophet, so your argument fails.
thats like you moving into a new house, and refusing to remove some of the old owners left overs.
silly child, the media purposely focuses on islam to justify their killings in iraq and afghanistan. Fact is all religions/groups have good and bad.
The indicdent in Clombia High, the student killer was jewish, how many times does the media mention his faith ? never !
Instead moaning on bitching about things that happen in other countries , why don't we sort out the problems happening in ours:
- rape on the rise
- anti social behavior on the rise
- murder on the rise
- sexual harassment on the rise
- teenage pregnancy
etc
saudi arabia has some bad things and good things just like any other country.
it has the least rape per capita
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_percap-crime-rapes-per-capita
2nd last in murders (Qater being last)
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_percap-crime-murders-per-capita
im not defending the government and all their actions, but only a fool would single islam out
What a skewed way of seeing things and what selective memory you have.
A bit of history lesson for you: A few years around the birth year of the Holy Prophet a giant army from Yemen marched on Mecca threatening to take it over. The Meccans didn't prepare at all because Meccans believed that God (even though they had several idols their religion was not polytheistic) would protect Mecca. The soldiers of this army died of small pox and never set foot on Mecca. This only enhanced the belief of the Meccans that God is protecting them. So when the Muslims walked on Mecca they didn't defend it yet again under the belief that God will protect them but when that protection never came they realized that this man indeed does speak the truth and is a prophet of God so they all accepted Islam. The holder of the key to the Ka'aba handed they keys to the Holy Prophet himself where the idols were kept.
Learn some history.
Even if you didn't know this important part of history it's still funny that you choose to say all that when the Holy Prophet showed mercy that very few conquerors if any have shown in history. The Holy Prophet and his people were persecuted by the Meccans and driven out of town. He lived in exile for 10 years under which the lives of hundreds of Muslims were lost including the life of his uncle who's liver was eaten by Hinda, from the house of Abu Sufyan (a staunch enemy of Islam). His daughter was pushed off a camel while pregnant and lost her child, and one man who's name I forget who killed another relative of the Prophet. All these people along with all of Mecca were forgiven when Mecca was conquered...and you're speaking of a bunch of destroyed idols??
A bit of history lesson for you: A few years around the birth year of the Holy Prophet a giant army from Yemen marched on Mecca threatening to take it over. The Meccans didn't prepare at all because Meccans believed that God (even though they had several idols their religion was not polytheistic) would protect Mecca. The soldiers of this army died of small pox and never set foot on Mecca. This only enhanced the belief of the Meccans that God is protecting them. So when the Muslims walked on Mecca they didn't defend it yet again under the belief that God will protect them but when that protection never came they realized that this man indeed does speak the truth and is a prophet of God so they all accepted Islam. The holder of the key to the Ka'aba handed they keys to the Holy Prophet himself where the idols were kept.
Learn some history.
Even if you didn't know this important part of history it's still funny that you choose to say all that when the Holy Prophet showed mercy that very few conquerors if any have shown in history. The Holy Prophet and his people were persecuted by the Meccans and driven out of town. He lived in exile for 10 years under which the lives of hundreds of Muslims were lost including the life of his uncle who's liver was eaten by Hinda, from the house of Abu Sufyan (a staunch enemy of Islam). His daughter was pushed off a camel while pregnant and lost her child, and one man who's name I forget who killed another relative of the Prophet. All these people along with all of Mecca were forgiven when Mecca was conquered...and you're speaking of a bunch of destroyed idols??
What Mcrae said was much different than you, he seems have hate against Muslims and not only Islam, I like the rest remember he was from Israel, I could be mistaken anyway..
But what you said makes perfect sense, I was even talking these with Sabet that day, I mentioned her the sun example too.. People started with the idea of sun, they were sacred of it, you know people were scared that gods are angry when it was raining or storming. Then the idea of gods came, not a bit difference at all than that sun story.
But what you said makes perfect sense, I was even talking these with Sabet that day, I mentioned her the sun example too.. People started with the idea of sun, they were sacred of it, you know people were scared that gods are angry when it was raining or storming. Then the idea of gods came, not a bit difference at all than that sun story.
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