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PhRoZeN

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Tal222 said:
that is why we don't live in peace yet. there are to many problems that our leaders should find the solution for. :oops:
i wise it was easier :)
Yeah ironically your leaders are the same leaders who brought this predicament in the first place.. There are many jews in your country who go out in support for palestine, their land and their rights.. why dont you join them?. Do your bit in going against the anti palestine agenda.
 
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Azzurri7 said:
Excuse me for posting these pictures...But I'd just like to post them, probably because some of you don't get to see them on bbc......

Thats not terror ehhh????:agree:
Those pictures are laughable. The first has a Palestinian child in a headlock by and Israeli soldier. I suppose they took him away and shot him? The second is the worst. First of all, the soldier does not have his weapon in firing position. Secondly, he's not even pointing at any of the people, the camera angle is strange. The Third pits Palestinian kids with rocks against an Israeli tank. If the militants of Palestine fought as they should, they could defeat that tank, and if they weren't too busy blowing up cafe's and buses, maybe the kids wouldn't have to throw rocks.
 

PhRoZeN

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Ian said:
If the militants of Palestine fought as they should, they could defeat that tank, and if they weren't too busy blowing up cafe's and buses, maybe the kids wouldn't have to throw rocks.
:lol: thats hillarious, how can you honestly think that they can send someone quickly there with a bomb strapped to his chest and throw himself into a tank?. The tanks are always heavily guarded if you look at more clear pictures closely or rather video footages of the israeli tanks you will easily acknowledge that. The militants dont have rockets like the israelis claim, all they have is the basic skills to make household bombs. Youve been watching rambo for way too long.
 
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ReBeL

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    Ian said:
    Those pictures are laughable. The first has a Palestinian child in a headlock by and Israeli soldier. I suppose they took him away and shot him? The second is the worst. First of all, the soldier does not have his weapon in firing position. Secondly, he's not even pointing at any of the people, the camera angle is strange. The Third pits Palestinian kids with rocks against an Israeli tank. If the militants of Palestine fought as they should, they could defeat that tank, and if they weren't too busy blowing up cafe's and buses, maybe the kids wouldn't have to throw rocks.
    There is nothing laughable but you...
     
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    PhRoZeN said:
    :lol: thats hillarious, how honestly do you think that they can send someone quickly there witha bomb strapped to his chest and throw himself into a tank?. The tanks are always heavily guarded if you look at the pictures closely or rather video footages of the israeli tabks you will easily acknowledge that. The militants dont have rockets like the israelis claim, all they have is the basic skills to make household bombs.
    A well organizaed and motivated militia, operating on it's own land, is capable of beating that tank, regardless of weaponry. Palestinians could at least bog down the Israeli army.
     
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    Ian said:
    Those pictures are laughable. The first has a Palestinian child in a headlock by and Israeli soldier. I suppose they took him away and shot him? The second is the worst. First of all, the soldier does not have his weapon in firing position. Secondly, he's not even pointing at any of the people, the camera angle is strange. The Third pits Palestinian kids with rocks against an Israeli tank. If the militants of Palestine fought as they should, they could defeat that tank, and if they weren't too busy blowing up cafe's and buses, maybe the kids wouldn't have to throw rocks.

    Thats right.. Maybe they could if they had some F16, getting them from USA.. just like israel is...

    What a joke!!!
     

    PhRoZeN

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    Ian said:
    A well organizaed and motivated militia, operating on it's own land, is capable of beating that tank, regardless of weaponry. Palestinians could at least bog down the Israeli army.
    No chance of that why? lets say even if they somehow miracoulousy overcome that tank and somehow bog down their army, which I must admit would take a lot, the israelies come in a fairly big bunch and have quick radio contact to their base.. a few minutes later we would have the whole crew down there firing missles at the refugees.. and then put yourself in the position of a militant.. his caught in cross fire as he runs towards saving his own people from being killed from above or rather running to save himself.. guess what? he dies. Its virtually impossible to fight an army which has much more weaponry than you, israel has the most sophisticated weaponry and theres no denial in that. Organisation may kill an israeli but it certainly wont kill a handful, they are protected with bullet proof vests helmet whole bunch than a normal palestinian millitant who is wearing his scarf. As for being motivated? I have to hand the militia for there motivation yes they are motivated but not at the same time stupid enough to say here I am kill me.

    Just to add not in the same league but the taliban did the same thing with the U.S in the afghanistan war, they fought in a guerilla manner but were obviously defeated thanks to the weaponry. On the contarary the taliban fought the Russians in the cold way and managed to produce a spectacular victory.. but that was partly thanks to arms being supplied by guess who? yes the U.S.
     
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    ReBeL said:
    There is nothing laughable but you...
    It's people like you who make the peace process difficult. Always going to the extreme and demanding redress for injury, while also taking redress through retribution. Israel and Palestine must come together in some way. They are too much a part of that land (each of them), for either to leave. So there must be a Palestinian State and an Israeli State, once both sides acknowlege that, it can move from there. Nothing can adequately redress the percieved and real grevances felt on both sides toward the other. As hard as it might be to do, the past must be forgetten for the sake of the future. The cycle of retribution must end some how. Without Palestinian terrorists, there would be no cause for Israel to kill civilians. Without Israel killing civilians, there would be no reason for Palestinian terrorism.
     
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    PhRoZeN said:
    No chance of that why? lets say even if they somehow miracoulousy overcome that tank and somehow bog down their army, which I must admit would take a lot, the israelies come in a fairly big bunch and have quick radio contact to their base.. a few minutes later we would have the whole crew down there firing missles at the refugees.. and then put yourself in the position of a militant.. his caught in cross fire as he runs towards saving his own people from being killed from above or rather running to save himself.. guess what? he dies. Its virtually impossible to fight an army which has much more weaponry than you, israel has the most sophisticated weaponry and theres no denial in that. Organisation may kill an israeli but it certainly wont kill a handful, they are protected with bullet proof vests helmet whole bunch than a normal palestinian millitant who is wearing his scarf. As for being motivated? I have to hand the militia for there motivation yes they are motivated but not at the same time stupid enough to say here I am kill me.

    Just to add not in the same league but the taliban did the same thing with the U.S in the afghanistan war, they fought in a guerilla manner but were obviously defeated thanks to the weaponry. On the contarary the taliban fought the Russians in the cold way and managed to produce a spectacular victory.. but that was partly thanks to arms being supplied by guess who? yes the U.S.

    You think that Palestinians don't get armed by other Arab countries? Anyway, the taliban are still fighting in Afganistan, their battle goes on, and victory is not assured for the Americans.
     

    PhRoZeN

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    Ian said:
    The cycle of retribution must end some how.
    If israel isnt supplied with massive aid we may just see a change to that afterall.. however as much as the international community condemns israels behaviour we see a huge stockload of weaponry being passed to israel tooo "defend itself".. how promising :rolleyes:
     
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    ReBeL

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    Ian said:
    It's people like you who make the peace process difficult. Always going to the extreme and demanding redress for injury, while also taking redress through retribution. Israel and Palestine must come together in some way. They are too much a part of that land (each of them), for either to leave. So there must be a Palestinian State and an Israeli State, once both sides acknowlege that, it can move from there. Nothing can adequately redress the percieved and real grevances felt on both sides toward the other. As hard as it might be to do, the past must be forgetten for the sake of the future. The cycle of retribution must end some how. Without Palestinian terrorists, there would be no cause for Israel to kill civilians. Without Israel killing civilians, there would be no reason for Palestinian terrorism.
    It's those ignorants like you who make this country continues its existing...

    You're sitting in your house somehwere in Northern Europe drinking a cup of tea and come here to tell me to forget my house in the land that I can't reach...

    Even the Israeli guy didn't laugh at pictures because he knows these picturse are right, and nothing but right while you come here with so arrogance and ignorance to tell us that you know everything about the issue while all what you know is that Van Der Saar is a goalkeeper...

    Go and read something to contribute to this thread or keep silent, please...
     

    PhRoZeN

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    Ian said:
    You think that Palestinians don't get armed by other Arab countries? Anyway, the taliban are still fighting in Afganistan, their battle goes on, and victory is not assured for the Americans.
    I certainly think they dont receive weaponry, simply because if that did happen we would have heard about it in the news (A lot).. and of course israel would have been the first one rambling about it ( and when i mean ramble.. i mean RAMBLE). So I see you asking me how the palestinians actually get there weaponry? well they are sold thanks to certain individules who sell them to both sides. Whilst the palestinians starve themselves for a year to buy a weapon, the israel are handed them freely, heck even the BOGOF (Buy One Get One Free) offer doesnt count.

    As for the taliban issue.. yes they are fighting but the Americans have that under controlled by no means.. all we see from some taliban is that they have a few weapons and start shooting at the afghan police a few minutes later they are bombed from above.. mission complete. how easy is that? A few days ago we saw 41 die compared to 6 (amateur) aghan officers that just shows how easy that battle really is.
     
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    ReBeL said:
    It's those ignorants like you who make this country continues its existing...
    That exactly my point. You can't accept the fact that Israel will continue to exist no matter what happens. So will Palestine. The question is whether they will achieve peace. But, that won't happen until both sides acknowlege that the past is over and the future must be molded to bring peace and prosperity to both peoples.

    ReBeL said:
    You're sitting in your house somehwere in Northern Europe drinking a cup of tea and come here to tell me to forget my house in the land that I can't reach...
    You always assume to know so much, but you're wrong. I live in Barcelona, and only pansies drink tea. I did not tell you to forget your house, I told you to find peace by whatever means necessary.


    ReBeL said:
    Even the Israeli guy didn't laugh at pictures because he knows these picturse are right, and nothing but right while you come here with so arrogance and ignorance to tell us that you know everything about the issue while all what you know is that Van Der Saar is a goalkeeper...
    You are being more arrogant and ignorant than me. But, why don't you argue, instead of just insulting me?

    ReBeL said:
    Go and read something to contribute to this thread or keep silent, please...
    I guess you've become conceited enough to give other people orders, and expect them to follow. Take your time reading, son.
     
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