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It's official, one of the 2 isn't dead, even though his situation is desperate. This is why he had been declared dead by the juventus official bullettin. Sourches: Telelombardia, Quartarete (Piemontese loval tv station), tg2, gazzetta.it, sky corriere.it

They didn't let them go, they just went. The team realized they were missing later.

Probably, but the news of Alessio being still alive came from a TV station (and was later confirmed by this friend). There's still a tiny chance one of them is still alive, I thought it was right to post it here.

A guy that has a friend working in the Torino hospital, confirms that Alessio is still alive, even though his situation is very, very crtical. Slack? Go and read the last couple of pages. It's all about respect. I hope that from now on all the posts will be about Alessio and Riccardo.

According to some sourches Alessio is still alive. I don't know if it's true.

Does it take a moderator to get a forum not to fight in a thread were we are mourning one, possibly 2, 17 year olds? This is the last written warning. The next time I read soemthing disrespectful here, I won't spare "real" warnings.

2 players of our youth teams died this afternoon.

The artificial lake is 50x30m and 4-5m deep. the guys must have slipped on the plastic material that grants the impermeability. The firemen haven't discovered yet if the two guys fell in the water together or if one slipped and the other got in the water su save him. Their teammates realized...

It seems that Ferramosca, one of the two guys, isn't dead (yet). The medical staff is doing their best to try to save him. Let's pray for him...

Andrea Fortunato. There is a thread about him in the Player section, dated April 2005.

I beg you to remain in topic *at least* in this occasion. Continue your private conversation via PM. And, out of respect, erase yourself the OT posts.

I read that according to Secco, the little lake (there for emergencies) is fenced. The two guys climbed the fencing to retrieve those balls, that had fallen on the iced lake.

It was cold in Torino today. Probably one of the two felt sick in the water because of this and the other wasn't able to get him (and himself) out of the lake, who knows..

Not that it matters, but they were Alessio Ferramosca and Riccardo Meli.

According to the Carabinieri they are "victims". I guess they are dead. They were 17. They've drowned in the Vinovo center. According to the Carabinieri they were trying to catch some balls that had fallen in the little lake there is in the center. RIP

It must have just happened. The refs and the Cesena players were entering in the field when Secco stopped them. According to sky the two boys are not dead yet, but their situation is hopeless.

Berretti is the youth team before the Primavera

The match won't be played. We still don't know why, though.