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Exactly. Everyone has mid-season but not everyone has winter champions and that's why there is no such thing as winter champ if it's different from a mid-season champion.

Yes, mid season champ and full season champ. Winter champ and....? Summer champ? Mid-season champs and winter champs = same thing.

Well, it's logical to be a "winter champ" after finishing the first part of the season (and you finish it in winter) and after playing every other team once.

In the past, when there were 30 or 34 rounds, the middle of the season (15 or 17 rounds) was before New Year so half season was exactly that - half season. That's why the winter champs were those who were leading the standings at half season. Now things got fucked up with more matches being...

So what? Even if it is, there is no rule that says what counts in the middle of the season when two teams have same number of points. I can take GD, H2H, number of passes the LBs made etc. That's why there will be sources that put Milan and sources that put Juve on top of serie A after today's...

After 16 rounds it was like this: http://www.statto.com/football/stats/italy/serie-a/2010-2011/table/2010-12-12 Before New Year (after 17 rounds) it was like this: http://www.statto.com/football/stats/italy/serie-a/2010-2011/table/2010-12-19

Nothing determines who's a winter champion simply because there is NO such thing as a winter champion and that's why there are no rules about it. There isn't a rule if H2H or GD counts in the middle of the season. It's only clear that at the end of the season, H2H determines the position of the...

That's after 19 rounds, Matilda.

In any case, with this match a very positive second part of 2011 ended. We achieved a lot, from being losers to becoming serie A leaders. We built our style, great atmosphere and 16 rounds were enough to see what needs to be improved. Now it's up to our owners and directors to help the coach and...

I don't think that we'll last till the end with our style, which is tough pressing and outrunning the opponent. It gave us result so far but as time goes on we won't be able to play the same game and then we'll need quality up front to win the games, the way Milan does. Milan waste twice less...

What are you guys on? It wasn't a good match. Tactically it was very good but we did most of the simple things wrong. You play like this tactically in order to use something that will be given to you by another team that played well tactically. But we were technically way too limited to use the...

All our technical limitations were on display tonight. Thank God the torture of playing without Vucinic is over. Like never this season we've seen so much bad passing and bad first touch. Obvious lack of inventiveness and confirmation that we don't play good counters. On top of it, it was...

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Vucinic is definitely out. Conte apparently is yet to decide who's gonna replace Vucinic. The three options are Esti, Giac and Quag. Matri is back in the starting XI. Licht, Barza, Bonucci, Chiellini in defense, Pirlo, Vidal and Marchisio in midfield, Pepe and Matri in attack will surely...

Sorry Rajni, but whenever you say that we'll lose, we end up winning. You're the anti-Hustini.

Yesssssssssssssssss, we're gonna win :lol: :lol: :lol:

We'll need whoever has the best anticipation to take the main responsibility for Di Natale, but it will still have to be a team defense on him. The man scored 60 goals in less than two and a half season. By far the best striker in serie A lately and together with Zlatan, the striker defenders...

I'm not looking forward to Chiellini covering Di Natale. He's just not the man for stopping these kind of strikers :scared: We'll need a team defense on him and lots of successful offside traps.

I changed my mind. Hustini and Matt aren't the jinx. It's Andy. He was here all the time making 50 posts per day. The moment he left we started winning.

Repeat of last year's 0:4, please.