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Turk, I'll leave the situation in Egypt behind for a moment, so I want you to excuse me for the off topic talk. But did you wonder why lots of those who argue with you in this thread are actually people who consider themselves Muslim? And why, 50 years ago, the number of Muslims who'd disagree...

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Nah, not a chance. Thankfully.

The MB didn't do themselves a favor when they decided to fake being dead or wounded on TV. Al Jazeera too. Now people won't even believe that the dead are really dead. Really stupid move from them :sergio: They did a Sheik in the mafia game. - - - Updated - - - Come on :D No blood at all on...

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I'll stop with the off topic after this, but not allowed to travel alone doesn't mean that they can't drive, imo. They can drive with a husband/male relative sitting next to them. Anyway, from what I understood, no limitation or prohibition against women's travelling alone is mentioned in the Quran.

Exactly why I think God made a mistake when he decided not to update the Quran over time. It's his final revelation to mankind, but he left us clueless about some things that were invented long after the 7th century.

I think his answer is a no on many of the questions. If it was a yes, he'd have no problem saying it. But the problem occurs because his mind tells him many of those are wrong, while the islamic view on those things is different to his. That's why he didn't give the answer. It's his "no" that...

Nope. A promise is a promise. Plus, I go to Istanbul quite often. I need him to find some stuff for me and for getting info :D And I really don't want to face the angry Turk.

Shut up or I'll show them the pictures. If you don't want to show them your face, I'll do it. And Turk was a great host, even to a gâvur like myself. You all have a wrong opinion about him, based on his posts. In real life he's a puppy, albeit a 210cm tall one.

Western part, Istanbul, the Asian side. He's 210cm tall giant. I spent a couple of days once with him in Istanbul. I wouldn't insult him or make fun of him in your place.

What makes Bisco a non-Muslim? I'm just trying to understand your point. No agenda, no sarcasm.

Last autumn I talked to one Bosnian academic, who considered himself a Muslim. He told me that he's a self proclaimed Muslim, but he knows that he's not doing even 5% of the things a Muslim must do. According to him, if we go by the book, only 1 in a million of the self-proclaimed Muslims is a...

So I assume he was gonna attract the votes of those who didn't want either of Morsi and Mubarak's minister. But why didn't he do better in the first round?

Thanks. This explains a lot.

From personal experience, I can safely say that Turkey developed a lot in the last 10 years.

Most of the Egyptians are Muslim, Turk. Come on now :) I think that your domestic experience with secularism is the reason why you dislike it so much.

Bisco, what about that third guy, Hamdeen Sabahi? He won only 2,8% less than Shafik in the first round. If he made the second round, was he gonna beat Morsi according to you, or was he also one of the Mubarak guys?

Aaaaah, didn't know that. Thanks.

Small voter turnout happens when the outcome is expected? Is that what you meant? If yes, then I completely agree, but was the outcome of the presidential elections last year so certain? Did the anti-Morsi Egyptians know that he will win for sure, so they decided not to bother voting?