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Obviously. But what about Grosso as a player? Forget that we're signing him. I'm curious about your opinion about Grosso as a player. People here rate him differently. Personally i'm undecided and i have to follow him more often to come up with an opinion.

What's your opinion about Grosso? As a player generally, and also as a potential transfer for Juve.

It's not even a dream anymore. I'm not sure but i think he signed for Bayern yesterday.

That's why i said "so far" :D I like it how we're looking for our interest and we're not giving up easily. We're trying to lower the price as much as possible. We're saying that our mercato is closed, knowing that Lyon will do everything to get rid of Grosso, and we're waiting for them to...

Oh, and i like it how we're handling the situation so far.

No, Cobolli is lying. We still ARE interested in getting Grosso. Will we get him is another thing. Lyon were playing hard ball because they thought sooner or later we'll accept to pay 3 or 3.5m eur. But they obviously didn't expect us playing hard ball too. Now here's the situation for Lyon...

We're not owned by one magnat who can do whatever he wants and single handedly choose who to buy. I don't think that Secco, or anyone else in Juve, is choosing the transfer targets alone. There is a team, where the coach is included too, that decides who to buy, what's the maximum we can...

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He probably offered those camels for her pretty friend, but now she's telling you that the guy offered the 100 camels for her.

What can Grosso teach De Ceglie? :confused: It's not like Grosso is a master defender from whom De Ceglie can learn all the tricks of defending. Plus, you can't teach someone how to run up and down the pitch, how to cross, how to have great stamina. I fail to see what can a fullback teach...

De Ceglie will become unimportant when Moli will leave. De Ceglie's importance right now and the huge overrating you can hear from Cronios (he even voted De Ceglie a MOtM yesterday) is because he wants to convince himself and everyone else that De Ceglie is a very good player who must start in...

Actually, he won't say a single word against Secco EVER AGAIN, if Secco sells Molinaro, even for 1 single euro. You can bet on that.

No, you're wrong. We had a young defense that actually needed experience. Is Canna the quality defender we needed is another question, but there was nothing to laugh at adding experience in our defense. Milan on the other hand had a 40 year old and at least 10 +Thirty year olds and yet...

:D The Clichy discussion is just one of many examples.

Well yeah, hating on Trez is surely unjustified but Andy asked him why does he hate our players, not why does he hate Trez, and it was related to Cruello's comments about Criscito. Disliking Criscito is the same as disliking Palladino. Lol, i don't think Trez played on that match. You...

He only dislikes certain players or he thinks some players aren't good enough to play for Juve. You do the same. You were doing it with Iaquinta, and in the last season or two you're doing it with Molinaro, Nocerino, Palladino and Marchionni. He does the same with Trezeguet, Criscito and maybe...

How can you relate everything to Molinaro? :lol: If we counted so much on Molinaro, don't you think that we weren't going to buy a LB at all? We could just keep DC who would've earned much less than Grosso and we weren't going to spend money on a new player.

It's not if it's a central defender you're talking about. But here we're talking about a full back, a guy who is supposed to run more and faster than the other players. Sure, there are examples like Cafu who are physically so well prepared and their body can still go on in full speed even in...

NO to Grosso