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  1. gsol

    Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm

    Just a little update. Giraudo has been absolved of everything except one count regarding Juventus-Udinese on the 13th of February 2005 (Juventus 2-1 Udinese). For the record, the theory is that Giraudo and Moggi (through Pierluigi Pairetto who was one of the referee designators at the time)...
  2. gsol

    Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm

    I pretty much just did. A whole lot of nothing. They've reduced the sentences because chunk by chunk each piece of the tower they constructed in 2006 is crumbling. Now those left with (by now few) charges will continue to appeal up the ladder until it is all but erased. For us it means pride...
  3. gsol

    Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm

    To Juve it means nothing. Juventus as a team has already been found not guilty so whatever happens to the others is separate and irrelevant. More people got acquitted and Giraudo's sentence was reduced. He and Moggi will now likely appeal to a higher court and continue the process of getting the...
  4. gsol

    Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm

    He has definitely indicated that he intends to go to the European courts but has not specified which ones (or at least I can’t remember him doing as much). As far as the new mess…there is too much that I don’t know yet but the witch hunt of 2006 is making it feel like a bad sequel. I...
  5. gsol

    Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm

    TAR court rejected Moggi's appeal against his suspension. Sounds negative but the sooner these things happen the sooner he can go to the European Courts. http://www.calciomercato.com/juventus/radiazione-moggi-tar-del-lazio-respinge-ricorso-595611
  6. gsol

    Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm

    Luciano Moggi, la radiazione (ieri confermata dall'Alta Corte di giustizia del Coni) «è una sentenza politica, su questo non ci sono dubbi». «Come ho sempre detto - ha aggiunto intervenendo a Sky Tg24 - io andrò fino in fondo e cioè alla Corte europea per i diritti dell'uomo. L'Alta Corte del...
  7. gsol

    Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm

    They didn't lose. The appeal was rejected. It's more of teh "we decide not to decide" crap.
  8. gsol

    Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm

    To drag it out. As far as I can see they are trying to sap Moggi's financial resources until he quits. They are reluctant to completely absolve him because it will lead to years’ worth of trials with Moggi seeking reparations. This isn’t a fact though, it is my opinion. ---------- Post added...
  9. gsol

    Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm

    You left out the fact that in a prior civil trial Moggi's lawyers as well as the referees lawyers all proved that due to geographic impossibilities, the calls that were linked to the Swiss SIMs could not have been from Moggi to the refs in question which is why Moggi is laughing now. On appeal...
  10. gsol

    Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm

    Optimistic is a strong word but I am happy that Juve not cheating has been proven. It's unfortunate that few realize it. One thing does need to be said. The judge not only explicitly states that the theories of 2006 have no proof, she states that Moggi's verdict is based on the presence of...
  11. gsol

    Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm

    To appease us. I doubt he'll get much. Look at the justice system over there.
  12. gsol

    Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm

    Just read the link. It said what I wrote up top but added that on page 84 to 85 the judge declares that there was no proof of the accusations made against Moggi and Juventus in 2006 but that the calls and meetings demonstrated a social familiarity between Moggi and the designators that was...
  13. gsol

    Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm

    Took me forever to log in. I haven't read the attachment but I read elsewhere that the main motivation for the sentence was the presence of foreign SIMs. In other words they hitched their cart to a horse with no legs. We already found out in other trials that the SIM cards didn't lead to...
  14. gsol

    Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm

    Mediaset and Sky. There are other stations like LA7 and RAI that aren't his. Newspapers too arewn't all his. Corriere and Gazzetta are more tied to the Inter camp.
  15. gsol

    Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm

    No hate on my end. Just lack of enthusiasm. I think they are putting the cart in front of the horse. Moggi being cleared entirely would have given AA more leverage at the bargaining table.
  16. gsol

    Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm

    My point is that if and when Moggi is cleared our argument (legal or otherwise) will be that we never cheated. At this point, we can't make that argument even amogst fans because Moggi is still seen as guilty (even though it isn't cheating that he's been charged with). My argument is that it...
  17. gsol

    Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm

    Jem83 your legal analysis is only useful regarding civil liability. The three pronged approach to determining objective liability can keep Juve in the clear regarding being sued but it won’t help the FIGC give titles back. If they determine that Moggi’s actions of legally calling referee...
  18. gsol

    Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm

    I agree. If he is guilty then Juve benefitted from what he did and should also pay damages. Juve have power and political clout and got off on a weak loophole. Moggi has nothing. Guilty or not it is more difficult for him to remedy the situation even with all the evidence his team provided. He...
  19. gsol

    Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm

    Guys it's Italy. It will be postponed 12 times and when a decision is reached, AA will owe Moratti 200 million, another scudetto and a blow job.
  20. gsol

    Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm

    Empty gestures in my opinion. We all know Inter were behind it but they have never been held accountable in court and won't be thanks to the statute of limitations so they won't have to pay a dime. The FIGC will likely also find some loophole. Expect nothing.