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The things is there's about no one in the world better at it than him so..

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Not really, the guy is clearly a loser

Has played once the whole 90mins for us and clearly not fully fit+new club with worse players, don't blame him at all.

Hm their stadium fits like 10k attendance more than Juve and there's some hype around that team as they got back to championship.. Also our opponents in the league at home so far have been Salernitana Spezia Sassuolo and Rome. Still higher % of the stadium filled than Sunderland.

The difference is Z has won everything you can win in football and is clearly great dealing with big players and egos. A difference you can't underestimate on top level.

Bet he played all his youth playing 2atb and who says his heart is set on Inter just because they're after him.

Not sure at all about Zaniolo; I'd go all in for Renato Sanches instead if there was any chance getting him.

Ask a United fan about any player and the answer is probably the same.

Got ur point there..Still can't say "he is what he is and won't get better" since he has improved every year. Zaniolo will and should improve but to really generalize I see him as diva with talent while Lorenzo is clearly a real footballer and a team player with some great vision and work ethics.

Couldn't agree more. Maybe used to but haven't been the same after injury while Lorenzo has turned in to a monster; to me maybe the most underrated Italian player atm

Played like two times per year as cdm in Manu.

U sure? Kdb is out there but I can't name anyone better.

Name one player whos better at crossing the ball and long passes. Any age.

If someone playing third of minutes in toxic manu and still being top 6 in assists in epl should tell something of his qualities, both in good and bad. kdb has twice the minutes in well oiled city with less assists.

@Jäger To me they were real tight matches against them despite losing, mostly playing better than Manu and don't forget who won the final last spring. And having a win percentage of 55 in arsenal and gettin them to play in a final while only being there for such a short period is very well done...

Clearly you don't follow much of Villareal if you really say that. No team has easy nights visiting them and Emery has clearly shown his quality as coach in cup competitions.

Some talk like we played against Genoa here.

All so so negative; There are positives too guys; Giving them total of 9 shots (The least for them this season at home) while still playing like shit on their home turf and them scoring just from our huge error in defense tells something about the potential we have as we can clearly only improve...

Oh he did play then? Hm not sure they'd bring 24yo Pogba to Manu as a leader and motivator straight lol. That your thought? We have a saying in Finland; "Even a horse kicks out of love" ..meaning the more you hate the more obvious it is you actually love him.:p