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Idiot though I may be, I've always liked Bellamy. Sure, he's not world-class or even class, but I love his work rate, I love his runs, and I love his unnecessary combativeness. I think juve have better and could do better, but he's fun to watch.

It's not all rosy. I just thought if I gave you guys a little background, you'd understand my transience a little better.

Well put, but you're assuming that he can be trained into a right back. I have my doubts. Like I said earlier he's a decent centre back, depending on his partner. What he lacks at right back is: close control, marking, crossing, and positional sense. I don't think all of that can be coached...

Trust me, the rest of canada is better off without them...

Sounds like the best day ever. Have fun.

Fair point. But to me, the way the club is run is not a minor detail. In the long run, it's the only thing that counts. Well, I get that from my father, so I guess that's glory hunting too. but, personally, I never thought that ignoring and excluding fans of other teams accomplished...

Indeed. It was made in haste, without thought. Upon consideration it was inappropriate, inaccurate, and irrational. Therefore, I removed it forthwith. Furthermore, it was not a true reflection of how I felt. I hope that members here are still allowed to edit and remove posts upon...

I thought you didn't care to read anything I write because I'm a gloryhunting douchebag? Now you want to know my opinion on something? I'll have to consider that for a while before I respond.

For clarification, I never said that. If you'd like to read the post, I've linked numerous times in this thread. True. But, they asked my reasons. I told them. To me, and apparently only to me, Barca is a respectable club. Yes, treating people with contempt make you a proper fan...

They are my reasons, and they make enough sense to me. I feel that I've been misunderstood to a point, but I shall no longer try to justify it. I realize that I'm on a Juve forum and y'all obviously don't agree with me, otherwise you'd have done the same as I did. That being said, I thought...

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I'm not saying clubs shouldn't buy players. I'm saying that clubs shouldn't loan out all their young players to make room for foreigners. I don't think that you can say Barca are guilty of that, and Juve certainly have been.

okay, let me make this clear to you, because you've obviously never had it explained before: There are several reasons which, taken together, account for a betrayal (IMO). Any of those reasons could be applied elsewhere or possibly dismissed depending on your viewpoint. But, as they are all...

do you want me to post pictures of the entire Juve squad excepting Del Piero and Giovinco? You're ridiculous. Juve have proven time and again that they would rather bring in foreigners than promote their youth players. You can't possibly say that Barca are the same way.

Yes, you are obviously too important to actually discuss anything. You, oh master of all that is good and right, will only mentally deficate whatsoever you feel necessary. Of course, you were the one that started the whole deal by attacking my integrity (again), so you'll excuse my erroneous...

Of course Barca sells their jersey, what I meant was that Juve basically sold the look of the team to Nike and I didn't appreciate that. And barca has never had a shirt sponsor and probably never will. It's about class and integrity. I guess Juve donates its shirt sponsorship money to Unicef...

BRILLIANT! How do you come up with that kind of witty reparte?

All good, I appreciate the tolerance.

Oh, so by being a Juve fan at one time I condoned cheating? You should really click on that link where "irrational" is defined. and it's no surprise to me that you were never a fan of me. Ignorance is rarely a fan of intelligence.

Sure: I became a juventus fan following Edwin Van der Sar's transfer to the club. At the time, I did not consider myself a "fan" of any club, but Juve were a traditional, respectable, old school club that endeared itself to me. After years of supporting the club, several things happened...