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Cunt. Hide in shame the rest of your life loser.

This has been blatantly obvious for half a decade at the very least. The aggravating part is that he's done that with the team which had, by a mile, the best resources, and probably some of the best players. Again: if this was the predominant way teams play football, it would never come close...

Let's see if they will consider the tapes. Anyway, I realise the club is more in trouble than I thought initially. Relegation is a real, real threat, due to wages scandal. I mean, how can people dispute the fact that this shitstorm was initially self inflicted? Actually, I think even the...

https://www.eurosport.it/calcio/serie-a/2022-2023/inchiesta-plusvalenze-juventus-l-attacco-della-consob-bilancio-giugno-2021-non-conforme_sto9210109/story.shtml Consob is not only acting on the salary stuff. It is the main problem, but they also look at the plusvalenze shit. If you don't wanna...

Yep, I'm not so sure on that. https://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/calcio/juventus/plusvalenze-consob-bilancio-della-juve-non-conforme_56778435-202202k.shtml https://www.milanofinanza.it/news/scontro-juventus-consob-su-plusvalenze-e-manovra-stipendi-202211211952195575

If this never reaches the civil court, on behalf of the stakeholders or of the entity responsible for regulation rules, I will assume you're right. But its commonsense ffs. The risk was there and they should have acknowleged this. Chievo was already investigated for this...

Again, if they found regular evidence that those operations were set up for accouting purposes mainly, this should be clearly illegal. You guys seem to live in another world.

Even a cow could understand Paratici was reckless on those transfers and they exposed the club. I guess.

When you make an sportive operation with the sole or main intent to manipulate your accounting, this means a diversion of purpose, I believe. The accounting should reflect true operations, otherwise you are artificially manipulating it. Of course this is an important infraction for any public...

Evidence that the prices were abnormally inflated would come from public reactions from the market. Or comparison to other transfers of players of similar profile. I mean, are you really disputing the fact Juve cooked the books? As I said, I'm not saying it was punishable on the sportive end...

Look at the Pjanic-Artur swap, or the Sturaro selling. It is obviously fraudulent, which means, out of intent. If this was legal, why weren't 100M operations done with amateur unknown players? Why bother doing it with known players? It doesnt work like that. You dont sell a U$1 pen for 100M...

Spot on. The most incredible thing is that this was all "unforced". They reached the top and from a very clear power position in Italy, managed to completely fuck it all up from there, all while using cheating accounting methods and who knows what else. The other clubs did it, but it was clear...

For gods sake, name

I actually don't think a change of coach, with the current squad and uncertainty surrounding the club, will make any difference. And, most importantly, it will take years for the team o acquire a new identity. Allegri's mentality has been going for so long, that it is deeply ingrained in the...

I can't even put in words the damage Agnelli/Paratici did to this club. Again, they set it all up. FIGC or whatever shit institution just put the ball in the back of the net. I think now the club is really, really is approaching real decline. The brand damage around the world (where people...

Lol good one. But he was indeed one of the most talented midifielders I've ever seen. His peak was fantastic, an all timer, along with Vidal's. I mean, he carried Juventus for 1 or 2 years. They were really reliant on him for creativity and deciding games. But I didn't believe he was that soft...

Was the stadium full?

Soo should we expect more points deduction for the salary stuff? What I hate the most is the posture of the own club. It's really tempting to just completely abandon a club that doesn't really fight for its own existence.

Has the New almighty president spoken?

I understand your point, and I'm not saying it was a fair decision, regarding plusvalenza. I dont have info to evaluate this. All I'm saying it was blatant enough to catch the eyes. Also, not every Club has gone public in the stock Market - that comes with more accounting and transparency...