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I agree but every lie has a some truth in it. Same for propaganda. Propaganda is not exclusively a lie. A basic tenant of propaganda is to use a massive overload of information so it becomes almost impossible to distinguish truth and lie. 1648676066 Ha, you're 20.

Im sorry but RUS fell so deep to other side down the rabit hole that if Putin would say the sun will rise tomorrow he wont buy it. You dont see the irony in dissmising every single thing as made up/propeganda?

I just dont see it that way. Tulsi Gabbard not withstanding

He can defend himself but I have'nt seen a single post from him that he says he is on the Russian side. Not being on the US/Nato side is not the same as being against Ukraine. Pepole here forget Ukraine are actually the side fighting not the "west" If zelinski himself would have been here on...

:shifty: He's from Serbia

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Not close. Ever been to the player section?

I know who you responded to. And I dont need a thread recap. I think putting Dos and Lanclot in the same bracket is unfair. Dont take it the wrong way, I enjoy debating with you and you make good points but your policing of the thread, does not make this thread any better, argue the point if...

Are you trolling?

So why not consider this is also a legitimet part of dealing with sanctions?

Did Iran said no?

Im not saying the enconomy wont be thrown back to the stone age or that pepole wont suffer. Im saying the basic sustain needs of the country to function will be met, imo

Yeah, Russia went from the largest importer of grain in Europe to the largest exporter in 10 or so years irc. It's not by chance Russia have prepered much better to deal with sanctions then with actually invading a country. 1648668461 Your deduction skills are lacking

Yeah I think we disagreed on that back then. Fair enough

Outside the last decade or two Russian cuisine was potatoes and boiled eggs. they'll manage.

That crazy. They did try to poison him though :grin:

:tup: Im rooting for the JCPOA to happen at this point, fuck the russians. Nuclear Iran will happen with or without it imo. I prefer Iran with somethibg to loose then without.

He says Iran should cut off Russia as a mediator, it canl be a huge blow to Russia and makes sense for both Iran and the US if they pull it off. @Ronn

Not sure you can enforce not doing a referendum otherwise I agree

The moment Russia have control there, they will flood it with Russians, do a referendum where 90% will vote to cede from Ukraine and they will never leave after that. It's not really postponing, in effect this is ceding the territories outright.