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When Agnelli did it against Tottenhsm and Pach was talking about Juve know how to control the game in every aspect including pressuring the refs at halftime, no one wanted his head then. Thats my point.

Im down for some change at the club but lets not pretend that this behavior is something new. It looks bad bc we are bad.

I never said care what the fans say. They tried to sell and the ddeal was in place and HE refused. That makes us have 2 options. Give him to much money or let him go for free. All im saying is that Dybala has made the situation complicated

What should the management do? I feel like whatever they do they will and have gotten killed for. 1. Sell him and bring in Lukaku-They were blasted for and Dybala refused 2. Extend his contract on somewhat fair wages of 10 mil-denied by Dybala 3. Give his the contract he wants and now they...

At some point you can continue to hit on every single transfer. Ronaldo changed what we could do and I put his biggest failures on the coaching hires. Having said that its extremely naive to assume money doesnt matter much. Also Liverpool has one of the worst debt ratios in europe right now and...

He might just see the writing on the wall that finances are out of hand and being able to compete is getting impossible over time.Look at the CL today. Its Madrid and 3 money clubs

There should be a minimum 3 leagues and give spots to big teams but then letting sports take over. I think this was the long term plan maybe? Eventually the individual leagues would need to be restructured into the cl style where the super league is the full season actual league.

Who knows. Maybe he takes a pay decrease or maybe the deal falls through bc we cant move him. In the end donna deal is based on selling him so cash would be freed up by taking a much younger player although long term the salary will cost us more

yes bc we would sell tek. Basic math bro

I agree Sandro is about 20 and Palmeiri is 10(which is bottom level for a player these days) -Thats brings me to the 10 mil plus on the exchange. I dont understand where the 20-30 come from? 1618497873 30 mil for a 30 year old struggling lb? also your valuation of Palmeiri is way off. 5 mil...

Age is similar? Not really What is sandros price? how high do you value him?

what is the individual value you place on each of them?

I dont like the deal either. All im saying is I find it interesting that we hold Sandros value higher while simultaneously bashing how crap of a player he is. Hes 30! I just dont see his market value being very high. Palmeiri isnt really what im talking about as much as the unrealistic value of...

I get that youre talking about plus valenza ans a pjanic type deal but even at 30 its overpriced. My point wasnt just about you. Its about our view of him and what it will take to replace him. Palmeiri plus 10 is probably where we stand at most 1618494506 I agree to some extent but money is...

If he wont sign again we have no choice

This is purely speculation but it is interesting that its coming at this time. GK is a very confidence based position and mental mistakes come from that. We will see what happens but I wouldnt be surprised if his head is in a different place with either a transfer or knowing he might be sold

Players can sense or even know when they might leave. That messes with their heads quite a bit. Maybe his form is off bc hes dealing with agents and his future moving somewhere or just left in the dark to speculate

I find it fascinating that this thread is made up of people saying how bad Sandro is followed by how he should be worth 50 mil. Do you think other teams dont watch them play or do you think shit Lbs at his age are going for 50? OOOOOOOrrrrr....you rate him in which case why sell?

Does anyone think the slump is related to things behind the scenes?

Add in getting a bit of money from Pellegrini, Costa, Rugani, and MDS and maybe we push for one more player?