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Ibra to Juve again, yes or no?

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ALC

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Ohaulick
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Third World Wonder said:
Black belt doesn't say shit. I know plenty dudes who can do drills and exercises until they drop, but are absolute Tiagos.

Lion heart Stam > Faux badass Ibra.
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I agree. Having a black belt doesn't mean you can fight. I think Ibra got it because of low self-esteem, he's a football player ffs, why waste time with karate?
 

Nedvěd

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Saw this post by a Milan fan:

Interesting.

Right now the situation at Milan is incredibly interesting. I don't know how much you guys have followed it but I don't know what to make of it.

Today Berlusconi came out saying Zlatan is "maybe a waste of money". Sited how he's been poor for months and while he had a good first half (he did, he was at heart of creating both goals) he lost his head and got sent off. There's the fact Pato is openly dating Barbara (Silvio's younger daughter and the most likely heir to Milan). There's the fact Pato does not get on with zlatan. And for that I blame Zlatan. He's senior, he's a better player, he needs to make more effort. Instead he screams. Pato does makes a lot of mistakes (as do all 21 year olds, his passing leaves a lotto be desired) but still.

The fact Milan dominated Inter without him, has increasingly made him insecure.

Then there is the fact Milan are massively trying to cut wages. Pirlo (sad sad) seems likely on his way out. If he stays he needs to take 50% wage decrease. Seedorf same thing. Gattuso and Ambrosini aren't safe either (though I'd put there chances at leaving at 1% max). Zlatan makes 8 million euros. In Italy tax is 50% so Milan pays 16 mil a year for him. Add the fact they are going to pay Barca 8 mil a season for next 3 years for him while hes 30-32, he's costing Milan 24 million a season. More than 10% of there total revenue. For that money you expect massive production. He did produce early in the season, he literally carried Milan for half the year.

However it seems as everyone improved, as Pato improved, Zlatan declined. He reverted to soloist Zlatan, unwilling to work with the team. This is no more evident in UCL, when Milan couldn't even score, largely cause of him (he clogged middle and didn't play 1-2s like he was early season, if Milan was more dynamic in final 3rd w/ pato and robinho, they surely would have scored. No one is stopping that.

Now they are increasingly questioning if he's worth the Money. Milan is entering title run without him. With Pato, Robinho and Cassano Milan can easily hold first. Milan might be questioning, why are we paying him 2-3 mil more than our next high earner (pirlo) and 4 mil higher than anyone else on the squad?

Add to it Silvio has now made it his obsession to get Cristiano Ronaldo (ok I knew he had a boner for him, but I figured we'd get Ronaldo like with all star players... at 30), he's increasingly questioning if Zlatan is worth it just like with Ronaldinho. Unlike Ron's first season, where Carlo was blamed for not playing him, and losing, Zlatan's played every game he's been eligible.

Considering there are reports Milan have locked up Ganso (thanx largely to Thiago Silvas influence), and constant link to players like hernanes, sahin, montolivo, criscito, mexes etc. and a want to massively rejuvenate the squad. It would not surprise me if Milan try to balk their deal with Barca and send him to City.

I still think it's more likely than not Zlatan stays, but it's definitely something to monitor. Berlusconi is not happy with his production v. the wages he's earning. He's suppose to be leader and star. Increasingly Pato has surpassed him and with Barbara's influence it's anyones guess.

The next 3 games without Zlatan, could seal his fate. Robinho and Pato have great chemistry. Sampdoria is in free fall and Bologna and Brescia are beatable.
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Do you lot think Ibra would leave Milan at the end of the season?
 
JuveJay

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BTW tae kwan do is probably the last martial art that I would want to use in a real street fight. I'm assuming he earned his belt through the usual watered-down, mass commercial variation. Not to knock the achievement in itself, but it doesn't make anyone a hard man. If a person can take and receive a blow and defend themselves is more the question.
 
Suns

Suns

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May 22, 2009
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Berlusconi is an idiot and I hope Ibra leaves them. How many goals and assists do Zlatan have this season? Also, wasn't Zlatan involved in both goals against Fiorentina? I hope he doesn't sign for them, he should go to England.
 

Nedvěd

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ßöмßäяðîëя;2978648 said:
WHOA! That's crazy...

Really, I could name 350 clubs in England that would love to have him.
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How many can afford him and also play in the UCL?
 
Delle Alpi

Delle Alpi

Chemical Dean
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May 26, 2009
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They have the sensational rumors reported by Tuttosport. According to sports daily fact at Juventus is working to bring Zatlan Ibrahimovic in Juventus (29). These days, the Swede was in the eye because of the disqualification of the three days allocated, creating no little stir in the AC Milan in a very delicate moment. According to Tuttosport, on Monday in Milan rumors about a possible return of Sweden in Turin. Yesterday sources other than the first re-launched. The protagonists of this operation would clamorsa Pavel Nedved and Mino Raiola. Also according to Tuttosport also lead to colon Louis Van Gaal in black and white, providing the new coach a competitive team: Ibrahimovic and maybe Gregory van der Wiel (23) to begin with.
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I know it's rumours, but I would say yes for Van Gaal and Van der Wiel, no to Zlatan. He should stay away from Juve. I can't stand the guy
 
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