Your Ideal World Cup Draw (7 Viewers)

Bjerknes

Bjerknes

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Since the draw for the 2010 FIFA World Cup is only about 110 hours away, I thought we should have a thread discussing what your ideal draw would be for your country.

FIFA has yet to announce the exact draw methodology. Here is a blog post that explains the possibilities rather well, I thought.

Ok so FIFA will decide shortly how they will allocate teams to certain pots. Here are the most likely scenarios.

Option 1 would be the same format they used in 2006 except this time they wouldn’t need a special pot because there will be 8 unseeded UEFA teams. Pot A would contain the seeded teams, Pot B the UEFA teams, Pot C the African and South American teams, but to avoid teams from the same confederation ending up in the same group South Africa would draw from South America and the two seeded South American teams would draw from Africa before the South American and African teams would be placed into Pot C. Finally, Pot D would contain Asia, Oceania, and CONCACAF teams.

Pot A – South Africa, Italy, Argentina, Brazil, England, France, Germany, Spain

Pot B – Denmark, Greece, Netherlands, Potugal, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Switzerland

Pot C – Algeria, Camerron, Ghana, Ivory Coast, Nigeria, Chile, Paraguay, Uruaguay

Pot D – Australia, Japan, Korea DPR, Korea Republic, New Zealand, Honduras, Mexico, USA

Option 2 would be similar to option 1 but Pot C and Pot D would change. FIFA might use this since this time around the remianing unseeded South American teams have a lower combined ranking than the CONCACAF teams so they would group CONCACAF and Africa together to create a stronger pot C and a weaker Pot D creating the likelihood of more balanced groups. This would make Pot D Asia, Oceania, and South America. In this scenario South Africa would draw from CONCACAF before Pot C teams are placed in pot together and Argentina and Brazil would draw from Asia/Oceania before Pot D teams are placed together. Again this is to avoid teams in same confederation to be put into same group.

Pot A – South Africa, Italy, Argentina, Brazil, England, France, Germany, Spain

Pot B – Denmark, Greece, Netherlands, Portugal, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Switzerland

Pot C – Algeria, Cameroon, Ghana, Ivory Coast, Nigeria, Honduras, Mexico, USA

Pot D – Australia, Japan, Korea DPR, Korea Republic, Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay

Option 3 is a little different. You would still have four pots but not all pots would have 8 teams. Pots A and B would stay the same, but Pot C and Pot D would be differeny and more based on geography. Pot C would conteain teams from Asia/Oceania and Africa, while Pot D would contain teams from the Americas. However Pot C would be split at first with teams from Asia/Oceania and Africa because in this scenario every group picks one team from each pot with the exception of the groups containing Argentian and Brazil as they would draw two teams from Pot C. One from the Asia/Oceania side and one from the African side.

Pot A – South Africa, Italy, Argentian, Brazil, England, France, Germany, Spain

Pot B – Denmark, Greece, Netherlands, Portugal, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Switzerland

Pot C – Algeria, Cameroon, Ghana, Ivory Coast, Nigeria, Australia, Japan, Korea DPR, Korea Republic, New Zealand

Pot D – Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay, Honduras, Mexico, USA

Option 4 is similar to the draw procedure used in the UEFA Champions League. Teams would be ranked 1-32. Placed into 4 pots. However, still the teams from the same confederation cannot be drawn together would still apply much like teams from the same country can’t be drawn into the same group. Pot A would contain 1-8, Pot B 9-16, Pot C 17-24, and Pot D 25-32. I ranked the teams based on the seeding formula and not the FIFA rankings.

Pot A – South Africa, Italy, Germany, Brazil, Spain, England, France, Argentina

Pot B – Portugal, Netherlands, Mexico, USA, Switzerland, Paraguay, Ghana, Cameroon

Pot C- Korea Republic, Japan, Australia, Ivory Coast, Greece, Nigeria, Serbia, Uruguay

Pot D – Denmark, Chile, Slovenia, Honduras, Slovakia, Algeria, New Zealand, Korea DPR
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http://internationalfootballtalk.blogspot.com/

Lets assume that they will use basically the same format as last time, or Option 1, to make things easy.

Looking at the pots, this is going to be a pretty tough World Cup for the U.S. I mean, it's really a huge bummer to me that instead of facing a nation like New Zealand, we have to go up against the likes of Uruguay or the Cote. A team like Chile scares the hell out of me, led by Marcelo Bielsa, using the ridiculous 3-3-1-3 that could potentially rip the U.S. to shreds. These pots are seemingly set up to cause a lot of surprises and give the African teams somewhat of an upper hand.

So go ahead and give your ideal draw for your boys, the worst possible draw in your opinion, and what sort of Group of Death you'd like to see. Also, we can discuss which drawing method you want FIFA to use.
 

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Guardian

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No Bulgaria, no dream draw for me.
I'd like to see more referee blunders, conspiracy theories, red cards, diplomatic scandals, exhibitionists running through the pitch, South Africa to the final, shocking wins for the underdogs and all that garnished with lakes of beer.
 
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Bjerknes

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    My ideal draw:

    1. Italy
    2. Slovakia
    3. Algeria
    4. United States

    I would absolutely love to play Italy again. Not only would it liven up the forums, but I also think we can beat them on our day. The Italians play into our hands with their lethargic pace and typical slow starts to tournaments, along with their general tactics. In 2005 during the draw, I immediately said we would have the best shot at a win against Italy because of said reasoning, and I still believe it holds true now. Slovakia is an obvious choice because I want to avoid the hard-nosed Slovenian team. But with regards to Pot 3, I have no clue. All the African nations are quick, can run at us, and probably overpower us, too. Chile would cause us tons of problems as stated, and Uruguay are not pushovers either. So it's really a crap shoot there.

    Worst draw possible:

    1. England/Brazil
    2. Holland
    3. Ivory Coast
    4. United States

    Obvious reasons. Holy crap that looks scary. England's direct play and pace would burn us, everything about Brazil burns us, Holland would dance around our midfield and backline like no problem, and Drogba would have an Arsenal field day.


    Group of Death

    1. England
    2. Holland
    3. Ivory Coast
    4. Mexico

    Get England out of there. :tup:
     
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    Bjerknes

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    Guardian said:
    No Bulgaria, no dream draw for me.
    I'd like to see more referee blunders, conspiracy theories, red cards, diplomatic scandals, exhibitionists running through the pitch, South Africa to the final, shocking wins for the underdogs and all that garnished with lakes of beer.
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    Hear hear. :pint:
     
    swag

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    Bafana Bafana to take it to the house under massive allegations of referee conspiracy with an immediate FIFA response of designating England for WC 2014 (sorry, Brazil). :pado:
     
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    Bjerknes

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    swag said:
    Bafana Bafana to take it to the house under massive allegations of referee conspiracy with an immediate FIFA response of designating England for WC 2014 (sorry, Brazil). :pado:
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    Uhhh, World Cup 2010 there, not 2014, buckeroo. :p
     
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    Nah. Sepp is gonna be pressured to move the 2018 talks up to 2014, which is supposed to be Brazil's after South Africa, Holmes.
     
    Bianconero81

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    England, France, Germany, USA, and of course Algeria out as early as possible and I am a happy man.

    an Argentina vs Holland final would be nice :) However, I hope Switzerland, Denmark, Italy, and Japan do well (for my friends). I would also love to see the Ivory Coast and Ghana progress beyond the group stages and possibly into the QF's as I have always believed them to be the strongest African nations for the past 3-4 years.
     
    Guardian

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    Who cares about the WC 2014? Certainly not the Maya. Have you watched 2012? We'll get drowned, all of us :cry: WC 2014 will be set under the water. I've started to save up, unfortunately I'll have collected 1 billion by the year of 2000012, it will be late I figure.
     
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    Bjerknes

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    ßüякε;2248535 said:
    South Africa
    Slovenia
    Algeria
    USA
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    I don't think this is possible because South Africa will draw from the remaining South American nations.
     
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    Bjerknes

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    Bianconero81 said:
    USA out as early as possible and I am a happy man.
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    Political reasons, for sure.

    Guardian said:
    Who cares about the WC 2014? Certainly not the Maya. Have you watched 2012? We'll get drowned, all of us :cry: WC 2014 will be set under the water. I've started to save up, unfortunately I'll have collected 1 billion by the year of 2000012, it will be late I figure.
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    Keep your chin up, son. Get 'em next time around.
     
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