You want to see biased news reporting? Come and look at this BS (50 Viewers)

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Majed

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++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
I just watched two reports, one on NBC, the other on CNN, and it was rather disturbing. The report was about how many television stations in the Arab world have took a "stance" that the United States and Israel created the Tsunami disaster, that has killed hundreds of thousands of people in Asia. The report said that some Arab stations and news outlets say that the USA was testing nuclear weapons with Israel, or even to the extent of saying that this was Bush's way of retalliating for the 9/11 attacks. They said that Bush decided to put nuclear weapons in the Indian Ocean as "his scientists knew it would cause mass casualties from the outgoing Tsunami." What a crock of horse shit.

I do not think I have ever heard such bull shit in my life from any news sources. You people say that CNN is biased.....maybe so. But at least it does not make up outlandish accusations that are out-right stupid. I stick with my arguement that some Arab news stations try to influence hatred towards the USA, and that is now a fact more than ever. But the lengths at what some of these stations do to create hatred towards us is quite retarded, for lack of a better word.
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++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
To any of smart the people who decided to say CNN and NBC made this stuff up, and shifted the blame back on everything that is US, well done. You just got slapped in the face.

Thank you, Sergio, for getting the video, as all the Muslim people here can take a look and read the headlines themselves. I will go and find the CNN video as well for your enjoyment.
You and NBC have done well to overdramatize this.
1. It was not "many" TV stattions. It was a small news paper in Egypt with an "opinion." Like I said, the Arab world have their fare share of nuts. Nothing new.

2. NBC did a great job in showing the famous "Al-Arabiya" news stattion in the background while the narrator said: "..but the view from some arab language media, decidingly different." I guess that's how they got people like Andy to believe that a news agency took a "stance" :rolleyes:

3. The only "stance" taken Andy were from few individuals interviewed and from local chat rooms. This again shows my point that all this is, is just more BS that anyone would naturally weed through. Sorry guys, but this neither gives CNN or NBC more credit nor does it make Aljazeera or Alarabiya any less credable.

BTW, would you kindly list the members who "decided to say CNN and NBC made this stuff up, and shifted the blame back on everything that is US, well done."

Again Andy, "would leave people to believe" is not taking a "stance."


Also, I'd really love to know what you're trying to prove, or accomplish?


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As for the limited donations, i think that it's very disgraceful. No question about that. However, I do not think that the main reason is religious (Indonesia being more secular) as much as it is political (which is also sad). The royal families in many gulf countries aren't even that religious.
 

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But yet this is hardly different than the political and moralistic fallout of any major disaster regardless of its location. And people in America are just as guilty...

I remember following the 1989 quake that hit the SF Bay Area, and all these bible thumpers in the Deep South said God was enacting revenge against gays and their sinful ways. (Somehow overlooking the fact that the earthquake was not located under the Castro District in SF, but rather under deeply religious migrant farmworkers in Watsonville, CA.)

Humans throughout history have tried to attribute some higher moral meaning to major catastrophe, invoking religion, gods, and some personal perspective/sense of cosmic justice in order to explain it all. Major disasters bring out the conspiracy theory kooks in droves.
Thank you swag for looking at this objectively. :)
 
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Ever heard of yellow journalism Andy? That's right.....it's all over the world.

When September 11th happened, in a lot of the Arabic newspapers and TV sations I followed the rumor about the 4000 Jews not going to work that day was circulated, but none of them every took a strong stance in its favor. In this case, however, you were the first one to mention this (CNN being the source of course...I'm not saying you're making it up). You see the difference? I had never heard of this conspiracy theory before you mentioned it and like Majed said.....it's one small newspaper. Some papers like to make profits and they'll stop at nothing to get it. So yeah, what are you trying to accomplish, seriously? Genuine question here.
 
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    ++ [ originally posted by Majed ] ++


    This just had to be quoted.

    Burke. It's been tried before. Ever heard of the Crusades? They failed.
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    First of all Majed, the Crusades were in the 1400's by the English, not America. And if America had done it, we would killed every one of those rat ass Arabs.


    PS- If the US was testing nukes in the ocean, we would have tested them in the Persian Gulf, not next to the worthless Indonesia, Lefty.

    PPS - Shut your Cock Holster.
     
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    Ever heard of yellow journalism Andy? That's right.....it's all over the world.
    Please. Like I said before, I have never seen any American TV network make such an outlandish story.

    You wanna hear my purpose of this Majed? My purpose is to show how not all, BUT SOME, Arab news agencies help increase the hate towards America. You cannot deny that now. I am just waiting for some people to admit that, and not deny it.
     

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    First of all Majed, the Crusades were in the 1400's by the English, not America. And if America had done it, we would killed every one of those rat ass Arabs.


    PS- If the US was testing nukes in the ocean, we would have tested them in the Persian Gulf, not next to the worthless Indonesia, Lefty.

    PPS - Shut your Cock Holster.
    1. Did I ever say it was the USA? :howler: You assume too much. I said it was "tried" before. Lookup passive verbs.
    2. What do you mean If America had done it?! Christopher Columbus wasn't even born till 1451. ;)
    3. Nah... France, Germnay, England were the western super powers back then and they couldn't. Could the USA do it now? Yeah, but only because Arab countries are at their weakest. Anyhow, no worries for now. The Pope appologized for the Crusades and that's all history. ;)
    4. Nah... The US wouldn't test them in the Persian Gulf. Our government isn't that dumb/cruel. Besides, if that ever does happen in the Persian Gulf, how the hell are you going to stay warm in the winter or how are you going to power up your TV and XBox/PS2 to play Fifa? ;)
     
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    Duh!! And it works the other way too.
    I really do not see that, not to the extent of this incident.


    And Majed, that last post was from Burke. He will be on in a bit.
     

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    Please. Like I said before, I have never seen any American TV network make such an outlandish story.

    You wanna hear my purpose of this Majed? My purpose is to show how not all, BUT SOME, Arab news agencies help increase the hate towards America. You cannot deny that now. I am just waiting for some people to admit that, and not deny it.
    They probably do, but not on purpose. I've always said that they (both media) are terrible. In the Arab world they twist the news to what the people want to hear, and we do it here on our soil too with all the half truths and twisting of facts on news stations (specially FOX News).

    Andy, with the USA playing a major role in the death of tens of thousands of Iraqis and Afghanis, is it really hard to believe that some crap-ass Egyptian news paper suggested that it was the USA. Durring the Oklahoma city bombing, almost EVERY major station and many interviews "specialists" said that the attack was definately some Islamic radicals. Tell me me that an obviously stupid remark in a small newpaper and a chat room (and a TV "specialist" ) is worse than an immediate assumption -by many stations - that have resulted in a couple mosques being burned down.
     

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    I really do not see that, not to the extent of this incident.


    And Majed, that last post was from Burke. He will be on in a bit.
    Oh... sorry... didn't know this was "quote and ignorant, destructive, and sensless post" day.

    Please, if you feel the need to reply on behalf if Burke, make sure you find one that contains content usefull to the argument (good luck with that expadition).
     
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    Oh... sorry... didn't know this was "quote and ignorant, destructive, and sensless post" day.

    Please, if you feel the need to reply on behalf if Burke, make sure you find one that contains content usefull to the argument (good luck with that expadition).
    Don't worry, Burke is right here as well. He'll be on in a bit to defend himself.
     

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    2. What do you mean If America had done it?! Christopher Columbus wasn't even born till 1451. ;)
    Beautiful :D

    how the hell are you going to stay warm in the winter or how are you going to power up your TV and XBox/PS2 to play Fifa? ;)
    Actually I got one of them bicycles with no wheels in the house that's connected to a battery. Wanna try me? :D
     
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    Okay, lets put things in context here.

    Which one is worse?

    Saying that the Oklahoma City bombing was possibly carried-out by Islamic extremists?

    or

    Saying that the Tsunami, which killed over 150,000, was caused diliberately by the United States by use of nuclear devices?

    I'll chose the latter, thank you very much.
     

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    Okay, lets put things in context here.

    Which one is worse?

    Saying that the Oklahoma City bombing was possibly carried-out by Islamic extremists?

    or

    Saying that the Tsunami, which killed over 150,000, was caused diliberately by the United States by use of nuclear devices?

    I'll chose the latter, thank you very much.
    I choose the first one. The latter is so ridiculous it's not even an insult anymore. It's just an outing of utter stupidity.
     

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    350 million in cash


    90 Military helicopters carrying in excess of 65 million dollars worth of medical supplies, tents, cots, blankets and food.

    Thousands of troops to deliver said supplies to the affected countries to not only deliver food but to aid in repairing roads and other infrastructure

    12 aircraft carriers docked in various ports around the affected countries to act as medical facilities to treat the injured victims.
    .

    Colin Powell is a very good man. I hope he becomes President of United States one day.
     

    Majed

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    ++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
    Okay, lets put things in context here.

    Which one is worse?

    Saying that the Oklahoma City bombing was possibly carried-out by Islamic extremists?

    or

    Saying that the Tsunami, which killed over 150,000, was caused diliberately by the United States by use of nuclear devices?

    I'll chose the latter, thank you very much.
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    I choose the first one. The latter is so ridiculous it's not even an insult anymore. It's just an outing of utter stupidity.
    That's what I think too.. What makes it even less harmful and seemingly more stupid is the fact that it's not even an issue for the main news agencies (whether government controled or not).

    Also, when that theory is the ONLY "possibly" THEORY, it makes it send a hell of a lot more like "Most likely."
     
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