Yet another muslim TOUCHDOWN! (7 Viewers)

[Azzurri7]

Rab in this region you know how it is taken.
While you may have a point, but that guy shows no remorse. Maybe if he caught a virus and is telling the community not to follow his footsteps it would make a difference.

But if you saw it, the guy is showing sex toys in the bedroom, how he roams around while his phone's bluetooth is on displaying his name and number.. lame stuff really.

This particular show I didn't watch, but in general as a program it is really helpful and even useful for a general knowledge bro. I don't want to look or seem biased but (Lebanese channels) are the only channels that do bring and discuss serious sex issues that not everyone in the Arab world is aware of due to their religious country banning these type of discussions/topics there.

It may sound or look stupid to show sex toys in his bedroom or turn on his BT displaying his number and name but this doesn't deserve the punishment he's going to get really.

Some people discuss how they ended up having AIDS, others discuss how they ended up having sex with this or that, all this is useful for us I believe. It only makes us think twice before doing or acting next time with our partner, this is an example I'm giving.

 

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[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Saudi man arrested after boasting about sex on TV Story Highlights
Mazen Abdul Jawad appeared last week on a show on Lebanese channel

He gives "graphic details about his sexual conquests," reports Arab News

In deeply conservative Saudi Arabia, pre-marital sex is illegal

About 100 people have filed a complaint against Abdul Jawad; punishment not clear

July 25, 2009 -- Updated 0651 GMT (1451 HKT)Next Article in World »


By Mohammed Jamjoom
CNN

(CNN) -- A Saudi Arabian man was arrested after bragging about his sex life on television, local media reported.

Mazen Abdul Jawad appeared last week on a show on Lebanese channel LBC, where he went into "graphic details about his sexual conquests," according to Arab News, an English daily.

A segment of the show "Red Line" posted on YouTube shows the 32-year-old talking about sex and foreplay. He also discusses losing his virginity to a neighbor while he was 14.

In deeply conservative Saudi Arabia, pre-marital sex is illegal and unrelated men and women are not allowed to mingle.

A government official told the newspaper that discussing sex in public is a punishable offense that may affect anyone involved in the broadcast.

"It is wrong to host people on television to speak publicly about vice and issues against our religion," said Ahmad Qasim Al-Ghamdi, director of Mecca's branch of the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice, also known as the religious police.

"The program presents anomalies and deviancy in society that are unacceptable and immoral, and should be punished according to Shariah."

About 100 people have filed a complaint against Abdul Jawad, alleging among other things, that he violated a principle of Shariah law by "publicizing his sinful behavior," the daily said.

It is unclear what punishment, if any, Abdul Jawad faces.

CNN has been unable to reach Abdul Jawad or the Saudi Ministry of Justice for comment.

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[Enron]

Maybe I do. But if you're married and your wife cheated on you. What would you do? Just walk out?

Probably marry someone else who won't bang the mailman, the neighbor, or the pool boy.

 

[Enron]

Jail term. Maybe 80 lashes.

And for keeping it civil sure will do. Right 7?

80 lashes? That sucks. Why not just a few Hail Mary's and a couple Our Fathers, sit in the corner for an hour, completed with a little testacles spectacles wallet and watch and we call it a day?

 

[Enron]

That's possible.
What would be an alternative?

Community Service. Make him do a show about the evils of bragging about his "acheivements", discussing why according to Islam it is wrong to do that. That would benefit the community and teach him a lesson, in addition to embarrassing the fellow.

 

[IrishZebra]

Community Service. Make him do a show about the evils of bragging about his "acheivements", discussing why according to Islam it is wrong to do that. That would benefit the community and teach him a lesson, in addition to embarrassing the fellow.

How about they just let him go and secularise their laws

 

[Enron]

How about they just let him go and secularise their laws

They could but then they'd loose their charm.

 

[IrishZebra]

They could but then they'd loose their charm.

Fair point

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

See, what I don't get is, pre-marital sex is forbidden, but is it pre-marital sex if you don't ever plan on getting married?

 

[Osman]

Anyone who says this guy deserves prison time and stoning is ok is a fucking retard.

There are muslims who think it is, but as far as I know they are vastly outnumbered. Islam's dislike for statues and paintings is just as bad though.

Elaborate.

FYI, thats also for another practical thing from back when the religion was established, there were like 1000s of little pagan religions in Mecca, Medina and the whole region, because everyone worshipping a random rock in their front porch, barely anyone having the same thing to worship, but inventing whatever personal house god, where it be a clay statue, a fancy looking broom, odd coloured stone (no kidding ) etc. So when a monoishistic religion comes up in such a weird inviroment, it becomes a rather clear taboo that you dont worship icons, because it was so infested with in a such extreme way with the people around them (seriously not kidding, one part of town could have 200 little religions of worshipping some obsecure object).

It becomes a clear guideline to those they are converting, who is so used to icon worship, that you shouldnt be derailed by some physical object to worship etc. Is pretty damn straight forward and makes perfect sense, regardless of how broad that "no icon worship" simple guideline grows to with those who are pretty stupid and becomes too litteral.



P.S Paintings was rather common in most Islam world throughout history.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

I understand where you are coming from, but when one always has to defend something by saying, "Thousand of years ago..." it is obvious to me that it is not for the modern world, whatever it is.

 

[Yamen]

Listen guys, if You are really looking to discuss how it works, I don't think I am the guy. You will not understand how it works until you see the entire picture.
Digging alone will not give you the right answers.

Religion didn't explain each issue alone. Each problem is explained in detail, with resolution and consequences. Its not do this you get that.
Stoning wasn't created just because it was the only possible resolution back in the day. Each penalty has a reasoning behind it. Not just a barberric act.

You should look at the bigger picture. Why pick on just stoning? Why not pick on Cheating? Adultery and how it would affect the community? Think of the bastards thrown around the street each day and so one.

It is a complete symphony.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Did you just compare stoning to adultery?

 

[roberto*baggio]

yamensbs,you are arguing with a cow.No matter how hard you shout,no matter how you argue,at the end the cow will only say 'Moo'.

Not just a cow, he's a fake illiterate bigot.

 

[.zero]

i'm gonna have to agree with seven. this topic is outrageous and just plain fucking dumb.

 

[Enron]

Listen guys, if You are really looking to discuss how it works, I don't think I am the guy. You will not understand how it works until you see the entire picture.
Digging alone will not give you the right answers.

Religion didn't explain each issue alone. Each problem is explained in detail, with resolution and consequences. Its not do this you get that.
Stoning wasn't created just because it was the only possible resolution back in the day. Each penalty has a reasoning behind it. Not just a barberric act.

You should look at the bigger picture. Why pick on just stoning? Why not pick on Cheating? Adultery and how it would affect the community? Think of the bastards thrown around the street each day and so one.

It is a complete symphony.

No offense but that's kind of lame. You probably know way more about Islam that most of us. Even if you're answer to our questions isn't the best possible answer available where you live it is probably more accurate that what we could come up with ourselves.

 

[Enron]

Not just a cow, he's a fake illiterate bigot.

How does one fake illiteracy?

 

[JCK]

Listen guys, if You are really looking to discuss how it works, I don't think I am the guy. You will not understand how it works until you see the entire picture.
Digging alone will not give you the right answers.

Religion didn't explain each issue alone. Each problem is explained in detail, with resolution and consequences. Its not do this you get that.
Stoning wasn't created just because it was the only possible resolution back in the day. Each penalty has a reasoning behind it. Not just a barberric act.

You should look at the bigger picture. Why pick on just stoning? Why not pick on Cheating? Adultery and how it would affect the community? Think of the bastards thrown around the street each day and so one.

It is a complete symphony.

If it was appropriate back in the day, it is by no means appropriate today. The world evolves.

 

[.zero]

How does one fake illiteracy?

i think its similar to "throwing your voice"

 

[Enron]

i think its similar to "throwing your voice"

Ah.