Wishlist and General Juve winter mercato talk (2013-14) (25 Viewers)
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I think the best player we could hope to get for a semi fair price would be Mata given his situation at Chelsea. He would add a heck of a lot of creativity to our team and for 25-30m Euro I think he would be more then worth it. He was incredible last season and I would love to see him playing in a trident with Tevez and Llorente.
It would also give us the option of 433, or 424
What a dream signing he would be after Tevez. We should buy at least one elite player each summer rather then 2 or 3 squad players. We have lots of good young players on loans.
It would also give us the option of 433, or 424
What a dream signing he would be after Tevez. We should buy at least one elite player each summer rather then 2 or 3 squad players. We have lots of good young players on loans.
Cant remember the source but I read earlier that juve may be looking to offload players with high wages and the likes of Vucinic and marchisio were both mentioned. It is apparently estimated to be a 17 million pound loss to the club not making it through the CL group stages. Chelsea, united still interested in Marchisio.
I know its probably all BS, but it would make sense to offload Vucinic now that he rarely plays, earns good coin for our standard and really isn't needed for the remainder of the season. As for marchisio, if the special one wants him, I say make it happen.
Again, Nainggolan coming in with asamoah being cover for pogba and vidal is good enough for Serie A.
I know its probably all BS, but it would make sense to offload Vucinic now that he rarely plays, earns good coin for our standard and really isn't needed for the remainder of the season. As for marchisio, if the special one wants him, I say make it happen.
Again, Nainggolan coming in with asamoah being cover for pogba and vidal is good enough for Serie A.
OUT...
Marco Storari (0,5 Mil.)
Rubinho (0,3 Mil.)
Paolo De Ceglie (2,5-3 Mil.)
Federico Peluso (4-5 Mil.)
Marco Motta (1-1,5Mil.)
Mauricio Isla (5,5-6,5 Mil.)
Mirko Vučinić (15 Mil.)
Simone Padoin (3-4 Mil.)
Players for filling the gap...
Nicola Leali
Carlo Pinsoglio
Nicola Murru
Domenico Berardi
Richmond Boakye
Gabriel Appelt...
We should think to sold or sacrifice 2 or 3 players...
Leonardo Bonucci 15-20 Mil.-Monaco
Simone Pepe 4-5 Mil. ?
Claudio Marchisio 20-25 Mil.-Chelsea, M.United
Sebastian Giovinco 10-12 Mil. ?
Fabio Quagliarella 8-10 Mil. ?
Players in - in case we play 4-3-1-2
One LB: Kolarov, Rodriguez, Criscito, Santon… + Murru
One CAM: Thuavin, Jorginho, Quintero, Hernanes, Diamanti... (Mata, Draxler, De Bruyne…I think Marotta will not buy a player over 15-20 Mil., he thinks he is still at Sampdoria and because our financial situation is...!)
Players in - in case we play 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3
One LB: Kolarov, Rodriguez, Criscito, Santon… + Murru
One RW: Menez, Nani, Iturbe,... (Di Maria, Sanchez, Cuadrado…again Marotta?) + Berardi
One LW: Bonaventura, Marin, ?...(Muniain, Draxler, Griezmann, Lavezzi, El Shaarawy…again Marotta?) + some promising youngster who can replace Giovinco (Mark or Zach...who can this be?)...maybe Giammario Piscitella?
Marco Storari (0,5 Mil.)
Rubinho (0,3 Mil.)
Paolo De Ceglie (2,5-3 Mil.)
Federico Peluso (4-5 Mil.)
Marco Motta (1-1,5Mil.)
Mauricio Isla (5,5-6,5 Mil.)
Mirko Vučinić (15 Mil.)
Simone Padoin (3-4 Mil.)
Players for filling the gap...
Nicola Leali
Carlo Pinsoglio
Nicola Murru
Domenico Berardi
Richmond Boakye
Gabriel Appelt...
We should think to sold or sacrifice 2 or 3 players...
Leonardo Bonucci 15-20 Mil.-Monaco
Simone Pepe 4-5 Mil. ?
Claudio Marchisio 20-25 Mil.-Chelsea, M.United
Sebastian Giovinco 10-12 Mil. ?
Fabio Quagliarella 8-10 Mil. ?
Players in - in case we play 4-3-1-2
One LB: Kolarov, Rodriguez, Criscito, Santon… + Murru
One CAM: Thuavin, Jorginho, Quintero, Hernanes, Diamanti... (Mata, Draxler, De Bruyne…I think Marotta will not buy a player over 15-20 Mil., he thinks he is still at Sampdoria and because our financial situation is...!)
Players in - in case we play 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3
One LB: Kolarov, Rodriguez, Criscito, Santon… + Murru
One RW: Menez, Nani, Iturbe,... (Di Maria, Sanchez, Cuadrado…again Marotta?) + Berardi
One LW: Bonaventura, Marin, ?...(Muniain, Draxler, Griezmann, Lavezzi, El Shaarawy…again Marotta?) + some promising youngster who can replace Giovinco (Mark or Zach...who can this be?)...maybe Giammario Piscitella?
out:
giovinco 14m
vucinic 13m
quags 7m
isla 5m
padoin 4m
dc 3m
tot out: 46m
In:
Menez (free)
Berardi 3.5m+ (buy rest half)
Zaza 3.5m+ (buy rest half)
Kolarov 7m
Di-Maria (or griezmann) 30m
4-3-3
Buffon
Litchsteiner Barzagli Chiellini Kolaorv*
Vidal Pirlo Pogba
DiMaria/Berardi------Llorente/Tevez/Zaza--------Menez/Pepe(if he still alive)
giovinco 14m
vucinic 13m
quags 7m
isla 5m
padoin 4m
dc 3m
tot out: 46m
In:
Menez (free)
Berardi 3.5m+ (buy rest half)
Zaza 3.5m+ (buy rest half)
Kolarov 7m
Di-Maria (or griezmann) 30m
4-3-3
Buffon
Litchsteiner Barzagli Chiellini Kolaorv*
Vidal Pirlo Pogba
DiMaria/Berardi------Llorente/Tevez/Zaza--------Menez/Pepe(if he still alive)
You should know that all those ideas are unrealistic as hell.
To know why you should check our previous transfers and transfer fees. Also, try to see how we managed to buy those 'big' players. Llorente was out of contract and it was Vidal's last year of his. Only in that type of situation we're able to attract some of the big names (plus they must be out of interest for clubs like Real, City etc. when they see that x player being their key team player with big flat wages). Other than that we're just going after most promising players within Italy, trying to get the best players from Udinese and other clubs on that level.
You're expecting us to buy Di Maria for 30+ million euros and offer him 6-9mln/year as wages. When have we ever done such? Face the reality, we're not going to pull such move, there's just no two ways about it. It will be PSG, Monaco, City or some other club that bids for him. Not us, just... no. If we're interested in winger we're going to rather sign Menez at this point. Kolaro's transfer fee might be acceptable but you should be aware that his wages are 5.5mln/year at this point which is rather insane.
Also, that 'sell x player of ours' is just as silly as buying world class players, or offering crazy amount of money for lesser players. People are telling for years how we should sell De Ceglie and some other players. Who's going to buy them? Maybe some club would be interested, but I think only loan would work at this point. We've never been good at selling players, most of them stick around till their old age when we sell them for peanuts. Those numbers you put there are plain silly.
To know why you should check our previous transfers and transfer fees. Also, try to see how we managed to buy those 'big' players. Llorente was out of contract and it was Vidal's last year of his. Only in that type of situation we're able to attract some of the big names (plus they must be out of interest for clubs like Real, City etc. when they see that x player being their key team player with big flat wages). Other than that we're just going after most promising players within Italy, trying to get the best players from Udinese and other clubs on that level.
You're expecting us to buy Di Maria for 30+ million euros and offer him 6-9mln/year as wages. When have we ever done such? Face the reality, we're not going to pull such move, there's just no two ways about it. It will be PSG, Monaco, City or some other club that bids for him. Not us, just... no. If we're interested in winger we're going to rather sign Menez at this point. Kolaro's transfer fee might be acceptable but you should be aware that his wages are 5.5mln/year at this point which is rather insane.
Also, that 'sell x player of ours' is just as silly as buying world class players, or offering crazy amount of money for lesser players. People are telling for years how we should sell De Ceglie and some other players. Who's going to buy them? Maybe some club would be interested, but I think only loan would work at this point. We've never been good at selling players, most of them stick around till their old age when we sell them for peanuts. Those numbers you put there are plain silly.
di maria currently gets 3 million a year and the "rich clubs all have high quality players already in his position (ie. psg have lucas moura, monaco have rogriguez city have navas silva etc...) so if he was clever he would go to a club that really needs him (like juve). Because his salary di maria is just 3 million we can afford to offer 3.5 to 4 million so he is capable of coming to juve. if kolarov's wages are insane he can firstly decrease his wages or we get someone like murru and develop him like bayern munic did with alaba.
Kolarov was already say that he is prepared to lower his wage if he leaves M. City. His price is around 10 to 12 Mil. (should be ok for us) and he is one of the best in his position. I think, he should be our No.1 target because he is that good and we won't get cheaper top LB.
For back up we should get Murru.
For back up we should get Murru.
Murru as backup would be a huge mistake. we should follow Bayern Munich's example of developing Alaba. Currently murru has a MV of 2 million at an age of 18 which was the same with alaba at 18. then alaba was loaned to Hoffenheim then is MV turned up to 5m at age 19. When he reached 20 he was given the 1st choice leftback and lahm was pushed to the other side which helped alaba develop a lot. I want Murru to develop the same way as alaba did so i would buy him now for 2 million and then loan him back to cagliari until he reaches 20. when he does his MV should be around 5-8m and then we should bring him and watch him develop. we did this mistake with criscito and we pay for it now. milan also did this with de sciglio. when he was 19 he was given the first choice start and the results were very positive. Juve should do this with Murru, Berardi Zaza Gabbiadini etc.....
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