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LiquidPLP

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Jun 9, 2012
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The fact is that we can win with any formation in Serie A. CL seems to be an issue because this is where we need to step up.

You don't see teams so weak technically in CL who just sit back and let our CBs + Pirlo play their game. In CL we're constantly pressed and this issue has to be solved.
 

Vlad

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May 23, 2011
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The fact is that we can win with any formation in Serie A. CL seems to be an issue because this is where we need to step up.

You don't see teams so weak technically in CL who just sit back and let our CBs + Pirlo play their game. In CL we're constantly pressed and this issue has to be solved.
:lol: So true. I mean ffs we always play from the back, just look at the average number of passes per game. Not just Bonucci who is 2nd play maker but also Chiellini and Barzagli have more passes than Vidal, Pogba or Marchisio for instance. You would think more skillful players should lead the game.
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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The fact is that we can win with any formation in Serie A. CL seems to be an issue because this is where we need to step up.

You don't see teams so weak technically in CL who just sit back and let our CBs + Pirlo play their game. In CL we're constantly pressed and this issue has to be solved.
The issue will be solved as long as we scrap the regista formation(which isnt going to happen this season) and dont make Pirlo sit in front of the defense.
 

Zacheryah

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The issue will be solved as long as we scrap the regista formation(which isnt going to happen this season) and dont make a weakass defender like Pirlo sit in front of the defense.
We need to keep the 3man backline.

Pirlo, would work very well in the past but his decline is to much. sure, in games where he isnt pressed, or can send balls over the defence he'll still be good, but thats it.

we should look to move to 3-4-1-2.
Because we got pogba we can. Play vidal and pogba as central midfielders, with two defensive wingers on the side. get an attacking midfielder as playmaker and two forwards, one creative, one scoring
 

Xperd

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I never said we shouldnt move away from the 3 man backline.Just introduce proper wingbacks ,players who are good at taking on their man,provide genuine width and are good at crossing and you'll see everyone praising the 3 CB formation again.

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Zuniga would be a great signing if it happens.
 

Zacheryah

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I never said we shouldnt move away from the 3 man backline.Just introduce proper wingbacks ,players who are good at taking on their man,provide genuine width and are good at crossing and you'll see everyone praising the 3 CB formation again.
mwah, our current wingbacks are pretty damn good, just need to play em right. wich is mostly to create space.

The issue is the team finding itself currently. With tevez we suddenly got a massive shift in creativity from decaying pirlo to him. Yet we seriously lack the build up.

This team seriously needs tevez-llorente, or a fit tevez-vucinic, with in form midfield

currently, the 3 central midfielders have been very average.


I'll go as far as saying that pirlo isnt justifying sacrificing an offensive player for him anymore at the level he currently plays

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I never said we shouldnt move away from the 3 man backline.Just introduce proper wingbacks ,players who are good at taking on their man,provide genuine width and are good at crossing and you'll see everyone praising the 3 CB formation again.

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Zuniga would be a great signing if it happens.
Why ? asamoah is much better defensively, and we could all see peluso's crossing yesterday


Juventus needs verratti. BADLY
 
Jul 20, 2012
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The biggest problem when a team witha 4-2-3-1 or a 4-3-3 aganist a 3-5-2 is the wingbacks are forced to play aganist 2 opponents. There are other problems too but if we cant get it out of our backline then why are we even playing with 3 defenders?
 

j0ker

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Jan 5, 2006
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we should look to move to 3-4-1-2.
Because we got pogba we can. Play vidal and pogba as central midfielders, with two defensive wingers on the side. get an attacking midfielder as playmaker and two forwards, one creative, one scoring
:agree:

Vidal - Pogba

Mata

Tevez - Lewandowski

but wait a minute.. Pogba instead of Marchisio? what about the tactical flow? :D
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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Because we would have won if we used a 433 and thus eliminates days of bitching and knee jerking.

Stop over complicating things. :D

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No denials, but it is annoying, especially after every game we drop/lose points :p

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I will jump on the 4-3-3 bandwagon if we were to get one of Mata/Di Maria/Nani :touched: :D
DEAL!

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:edit: wait! Seriously just use Mirko there...him in that position with that formation will literally shut us all up into a :dazed: moment of bliss.
 
Jul 1, 2010
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Because we would have won if we used a 433
How so?

We probably still would have conceded that goal and as far as I know, creating chances was not a problem as we shot more than 25 times at their goal.

We did not win because of very poor finishing, their goalkeeper's stellar form, and Conte's refusal to bring in Llorente. Swinging all those crosses would have made more sense with a 6' 5" striker in their penalty box.
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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How so?

We probably still would have conceded that goal and as far as I know, creating chances was not a problem as we shot more than 25 times at their goal.

We did not win because of very poor finishing, their goalkeeper's stellar form, and Conte's refusal to bring in Llorente. Swinging all those crosses would have made more sense with a 6' 5" striker in their penalty box.
Maybe we would have produced better chances.

Maybe we would have never given them that set piece.


We will never know.
 
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