Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2014-15) (69 Viewers)

[Pirlo's Beard]

All these damn clubs take our ridiculously cheap co-owned deals in a heartbeat, and get to use them for years on end for 1/2 the price of an already cheap deal. Then they play serious hard ball when we come calling back

Thank God co-ownerships will be eradicated next season, teams abuse us all the time.

 

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[Red]

If you ask me, ourbackline is a ticking bomb.

Could you name some defenders you do trust?

 

[Mark]

GDM linking us to Luisao.

http://gianlucadimarzio.com/juventus/juve-sorpresa-luisao-contatti-in-corso/

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

Yeah I seen that a second ago

Would definitely take him, every time I watch Benfica in the CL/EL he really does a job at the back.

I know he's old but he's obviously never been one to rely on speed or lightning quick reactions.

 

[Mark]

I'll check when his contract is up. If it's 2015 maybe we could get him for cheap but still it's Benfica.

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2016.

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

Not even the mighty Benfica can demand loads for an old man surely.

Wouldn't put it past them though.

Maybe we give them 2 shit players of our own, they hype them up for 3 years and sell them for 20M a piece?

 

[donpiero]

@Mark what's your opinion on the Vidal saga?! Is there any truth in it? You see him leaving or staying?

 

[Hydde]

As long as we get away from 3-5-2, where most of our creativity comes from Pirlo, or Bonucci who frequently blasts long balls when Pirlo is shut down, wingbacks that are way to predictable when moving forward, it's all good; 4-3-1-2, 4-3-3, 4-3-2-1, etc... we have the personnel to pull this off. Hopefully Allegri realizes limitations during this preseason period to avoid repeating Conte's mistakes. Positives were his willingness to try other formations till now, something Conte was very reluctant to do.

WHich take us to my next question.

We are pretty advanced in the preseason already...with a couple weeks before the first serie A game is played. Bar a couple formatin switch with subs... i have not seen allegri trying to adapt the team to any new formation and instead is starting all games with 352.

I think it would be wiser to start games with our formation to learn, rather than to switch to different formations with 15 mins left in every friendly.
It seems to me that for now, is not priority for him to change the 352. This worries me.

 

[Mark]

He's 33. For cheap we should move for him. If not and we have cash for Manolas then go for him. He's young. Basa and Schär would be nice too. Höwedes though but he'll be too pricey.

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@Mark what's your opinion on the Vidal saga?! Is there any truth in it? You see him leaving or staying?

I see him stay. Next year 50/50.

 

[Hydde]

Could you name some defenders you do trust?

Guys like thiago Silva is what we need, but we will not get him.
To be honest, what im pointing is that we dont need players like bonucci. Who we need and could be in our budget range? i dont know, ill leave that to Marotta.
But i repeat, our defensive line is worrysome.

 

[chester]

WHich take us to my next question.

We are pretty advanced in the preseason already...with a couple weeks before the first serie A game is played. Bar a couple formatin switch with subs... i have not seen allegri trying to adapt the team to any new formation and instead is starting all games with 352.

I think it would be wiser to start games with our formation to learn, rather than to switch to different formations with 15 mins left in every friendly.
It seems to me that for now, is not priority for him to change the 352. This worries me.

Of course he is not going to change a tactic that has been working well for 3 seasons in a row from the start of the season.
If it doesn't do the trick anymore he will change it, or maybe in Europe, definately not at the start of the season.

 

[Hydde]

I know, but it wouldnt be better to try things now in this meanigless games?. Its better than to be gambling when points are at stake.

 

[chester]

I know, but it wouldnt be better to try things now in this meanigless games?. Its better than to be gambling when points are at stake.

It would, but it is also smart for the nex guys to get used to the 3-5-2 which worked for us in the past (in the league) and it looks like that is what Allegri has been doing up until now in the friendlies.

 

[Robee]

Luisao, is this a joke ? He's the same age as Barzagli... If that's the option I'd rather just keep Sorensen...

I know, but it wouldnt be better to try things now in this meanigless games?. Its better than to be gambling when points are at stake.

He is trying things. This squad is new to him. If we'll start in our 3-5-2 he must learn how our players fit into it obviously.

 

[blacknwhite]

He's 33. For cheap we should move for him. If not and we have cash for Manolas then go for him. He's young. Basa and Schär would be nice too. Höwedes though but he'll be too pricey.

Höwedes is average. Hes a guy like Ranocchia: He was very hyped in younger years but never made it to a Top-defender.

Höwedes isnt even one of the best defenders in bundesliga. even a sub like sokratis (BVB) is a much better defender than him.

 

[Mark]

 

[Fr3sh]

Luisao, Howedes, Cronios' nephew and all them other shit defenders should stay where they are. We need to bring back Sorenson, sell Bonucci for 25mil. A defensive set of Caceres, Chiellini, Barzagli, Licht, Sorenson, Evra, Asamoah (lb/cm) is not bad at all and there is cover for them in players like Romulu and Padoin.

 

[blacknwhite]

Im serious. In the german national team he is fourth choice CB after boateng, hummels, mertesacker and soon maybe even badstuber (back from injury). in my opinion hes very overrated and he gets often massively (and rightly) criticized in germany (except from schalke-fans).

 

[Mark]

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Im serious. In the german national team he is fourth choice CB after boateng, hummels, mertesacker and soon maybe even badstuber (back from injury). in my opinion hes very overrated and he gets often massively (and rightly) critisized in germany (except from schalke-fans).

I'd still take him over BonBon, Ogbonna...

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Still think we should sell Caceres