Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2014-15) (21 Viewers)

[Hydde]

Quags and Vuci out. Inmobile and Gabbiadini are very accesible players,so invest in those 2. Bring back marrone for covering on mid. Sell peluso and Isla and buy proper players for those 2and we are almost set. Ill leave the rest to marotta and co.

 

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[zizinho]

We should stop considering the sale of Pogba to get a few minnows in return.

Let us not be peasant fools

he will stay. why should anyone making lists whitch includes selling Pogba?

 

[Post Ironic]

he will stay. why should anyone making lists whitch includes selling Pogba?

Because... Peasant fools. Seriously. Peasant fools.

I'm more of the hipster retard iconoclast with troglodyte tendencies. But I take what I can get...

PS. Zach. If you want to sound more erudite while bashing people, troglodyte is a much better word than fool. Peasant Troglodytes. It has a nice ring to it, n'est-ce pas?

 

[jukazem]

he will stay. why should anyone making lists whitch includes selling Pogba?

I think most are worried that Pogba hasn't signed a contract extension yet, but reality is Juve didn't offer a contract and can't afford to until the excess players like Vucinic, Quag, Motta and DeCeglie are out of the wage bill (maybe add Peluso, Padoin in the list as well). right now Juve's wage scenario is pretty bad, looking at a loss near €30m because of that excess player wages.

 

[Zacheryah]

Because... Peasant fools. Seriously. Peasant fools.

I'm more of the hipster retard iconoclast with troglodyte tendencies. But I take what I can get...

PS. Zach. If you want to sound more erudite while bashing people, troglodyte is a much better word than fool. Peasant Troglodytes. It has a nice ring to it, n'est-ce pas?

Yeah, but they barely understand "peasant fool" so why make it harder

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I think most are worried that Pogba hasn't signed a contract extension yet, but reality is Juve didn't offer a contract and can't afford to until the excess players like Vucinic, Quag, Motta and DeCeglie are out of the wage bill (maybe add Peluso, Padoin in the list as well). right now Juve's wage scenario is pretty bad, looking at a loss near €30m because of that excess player wages.

Do you work for gazzetta or corriero ?

 

[Post Ironic]

Yeah, but they barely understand "peasant fool" so why make it harder

True. Never overestimate the intelligence of a "peasant fool"...

 

[jukazem]

Do you work for gazzetta or corriero ?

wth, no I don't

Juve publishes financial reports in great detail, you can know a lot from that.

 

[Orgut]

I think most are worried that Pogba hasn't signed a contract extension yet, but reality is Juve didn't offer a contract and can't afford to until the excess players like Vucinic, Quag, Motta and DeCeglie are out of the wage bill (maybe add Peluso, Padoin in the list as well). right now Juve's wage scenario is pretty bad, looking at a loss near €30m because of that excess player wages.

So you are saying that Pogba will get a new contract while all those you listed will be sold?!
If so does it also mean we wont be signing anyone (who`s wage is north to 3M) since we wont be able to afford him?

 

[jukazem]

So you are saying that Pogba will get a new contract while all those you listed will be sold?!
If so does it also mean we wont be signing anyone (who`s wage is north to 3M) since we wont be able to afford him?

I am guessing from some facts (like Juve financials) and estimation of others (like wage estimates of GDS). I expect Juve to operate at a small loss every year; so while some of the wage cutting maybe to lower the loss, I expect most of the wages saved from outgoing players to be wages for new players. Vucinic and Quag together are estimated to earn near €9m gross (~€5m net), so no reason for me to believe that we won't be signing anyone with wages north of €3m.

 

[Vlad]

I am guessing from some facts (like Juve financials) and estimation of others (like wage estimates of GDS). I expect Juve to operate at a small loss every year; so while some of the wage cutting maybe to lower the loss, I expect most of the wages saved from outgoing players to be wages for new players. Vucinic and Quag together are estimated to earn near €9m gross (~€5m net), so no reason for me to believe that we won't be signing anyone with wages north of €3m.

And along with wages we'll lower amortization costs. Selling both Vucinic and Quag, even at a small loss might lower our overall costs +15m per year.

 

[jukazem]

exactly €15m per year by my estimation, also no more amortization expense of jorge Martinez that's another €3m per year. I tried explaining and relating amortization expense savings to transfer budget of future seasons, not many willing readers.

 

[zizinho]

And along with wages we'll lower amortization costs. Selling both Vucinic and Quag, even at a small loss might lower our overall costs +15m per year.

i wanted to ask you something about Sanchez . do you believe, or how high are the chances of Exor "giving" us money for Sanchez or/and Cuadrado . is there any news or talks about that or was that just your personal belief

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exactly €15m by my estimation, also no more amortization expense of jorge Martinez that's another €3m per year. I tried explaining and relating amortization expense savings to transfer budget of future seasons, not many willing readers.

how do you get that number? how much we paid for a player divided by years he played for us? or is the salary a factor too

 

[jukazem]

how do you get that number? how much we paid for a player divided by years he played for us? or is the salary a factor too

€15m includes both amortization and wages of both Vucinic and Quag. the €3m for Jorge Martinez is just amortization (€11.8m/4years)

 

[zizinho]

 

[Vlad]

i wanted to ask you something about Sanchez . do you believe, or how high are the chances of Exor "giving" us money for Sanchez or/and Cuadrado . is there any news or talks about that or was that just your personal belief

Just my belief, since we're likely to record losses for the next 2-3 years and might be a good time to invest some money, 50-70m, considering Exor sold SGS and made 1.5 billion of profit. But time will tell, it might happen next fall, or spring, but I have a feeling they'll invest at some point.

 

[VidAL!123]

What's the situation with lamela? there was talk of lamela for vucinic+cash in January

 

[alexjuventino]

What's the situation with lamela? there was talk of lamela for vucinic+cash in January

He doesn't play at all and wants to leave. I don't see Tottenham wanting to sell for a loss though.

 

[VidAL!123]

He doesn't play at all and wants to leave. I don't see Tottenham wanting to sell for a loss though.

what about something like vucinic+15m. he has played 9 matches overall. he's price has dropped dramatically.

 

[zizinho]

what about something like vucinic+15m. he has played 9 matches overall. he's price has dropped dramatically.

Arsenal offered 10M for Vucinic. so 15M + Mirko (thats 25M) wuldnt be a . Vucinic + 10M would be good, but Vucinic + 5M would be a x 10

 

[GrandeBarza]

Alex Sandro from Porto looks good