Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2014-15) (36 Viewers)
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I was watching this program on BeinSport and it is called The Locker Room. So they had a discussion about Pogba and whether he should leave and whether Juve should sell him. Regarding whether he should leave everyone said they think he should stay because he is in a big club and has many players who he can learn from however 2 of the analysts said that he will eventually leave. Regarding the question about whether Juve should sell him they made a good point. When it comes to finances Juve have debt which everyone knows. It cost Juve more than like 100m to build a stadium. We have a player on our hands that could possibly be sold for the cost of our stadium.
While I'm not saying Pogba will be sold nor he should be sold but there are alot of factors when it comes to his situation. If we did sell Pogba we could build a more competitive squad for the Champions League and with the possible progression in the competition comes the increased revenue. It ultimately would even itself out but then again we don't know the full potential of Pogba. However at this point I don't see Pogba as influential.
While I'm not saying Pogba will be sold nor he should be sold but there are alot of factors when it comes to his situation. If we did sell Pogba we could build a more competitive squad for the Champions League and with the possible progression in the competition comes the increased revenue. It ultimately would even itself out but then again we don't know the full potential of Pogba. However at this point I don't see Pogba as influential.
i have trust in our management. Agnelli said we want to keep Pogba, Marotta said Pogba will be here for years, and (im not sure about the truth behind this one) Conte said he wont let Pogba be sold. so thats more important to me than what some analysts say. we get new sponsors in 2015, we can sell our stadium name, Agnelli is doing some serious projects and once we paid off our stadium we will have money as shit. if there is will from our side to keep him (which obviously is there) he will stay here...
pogba is a player that will help us in the champions league and if we are fairly competitive in the champions league we will increase our revenue which will eventually pay for our debts. this is not counting the shift sales of pogba and other factors. we need to keep him as long as possible and when it is the time to sell then we will sell just like zidane's transfer.
This juve is very close to the 97 juve that won the champions league with zidane in terms of quality of players. we just need to fill in the gaps at leftback and wingers and give a shot at the champions league. the fact that we have pogba and vidal means that our wingers won't have to be necessarily world class but they have to be good enough that they can provide assists and some goals.
This juve is very close to the 97 juve that won the champions league with zidane in terms of quality of players. we just need to fill in the gaps at leftback and wingers and give a shot at the champions league. the fact that we have pogba and vidal means that our wingers won't have to be necessarily world class but they have to be good enough that they can provide assists and some goals.
IMO the only way to keep Pogba is keep playing Raiola's game. Which means bend over to him and keep being his hostage. By paying a huge some to him so he won't make Pogba's mind. If he tells Pogba to stay, he will stay.
So if Juve has to pay 15M in 3 yrs straight to Raiola to keep "good relations" and Pogba, so be it. A 4/5M annual salary to Pogba would clearly be enough to keep him at the current stage.
It's a very worth move 'cause this will not be revealed by the club and it's a statement from Juventus to Europe, showing proper ambition.
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So if Pogba stays, I see Conte wanting to keep Osvaldo by any means - so we'll pay 12/15M for him I guess.
Isla will also have his 2nd half bought for around 6M. These 2 guys already make around 20M spending just to keep the current team. I think Giovinco will stay.
Vucinic + Quagliarella should equal around 10M.
I do think there's a good chance of signing Menez for free. Also paying like 8M for a Paletta. Peluso and Padoin will continue in the squad. But with Menez arrival Conte might try to use a back 4 more often.
Summing it up, I don't see big changes coming at all. It's gonna be the same starting team, maybe with a more relevant option as a winger on the bench.
So if Juve has to pay 15M in 3 yrs straight to Raiola to keep "good relations" and Pogba, so be it. A 4/5M annual salary to Pogba would clearly be enough to keep him at the current stage.
It's a very worth move 'cause this will not be revealed by the club and it's a statement from Juventus to Europe, showing proper ambition.
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So if Pogba stays, I see Conte wanting to keep Osvaldo by any means - so we'll pay 12/15M for him I guess.
Isla will also have his 2nd half bought for around 6M. These 2 guys already make around 20M spending just to keep the current team. I think Giovinco will stay.
Vucinic + Quagliarella should equal around 10M.
I do think there's a good chance of signing Menez for free. Also paying like 8M for a Paletta. Peluso and Padoin will continue in the squad. But with Menez arrival Conte might try to use a back 4 more often.
Summing it up, I don't see big changes coming at all. It's gonna be the same starting team, maybe with a more relevant option as a winger on the bench.
I think Conte would be more inclined to do so because he'd have much more faith in Menez than in Giovinco. It's actually the quality of the players that counts for Conte, not really the scheme.
You see, now that Osvaldo is here, playing well, Conte develops immediate trust on him and starts rotating a lot more with Tevez and Llorente.
The same for the 4 guys and 3 spots in the mid.
Caceres is regaining his full trust and I bet he will rotate more often from now on. The same with Isla.
It's just a matter of quality of the player and confidence by Conte, who clearly does not give much opportunities for a player to gain his trust. He's not very patient.
I feel that Menez would be similar to Osvaldo - would arrive already with some expectations from Conte, which would lead to more rotation uprfont and scheme change - with Isla/Giovinco playing more often, or even Marchisio/Vidal/Pogba playing in more advanced positions in the mid.
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Hopefully Ogbonna is the one to gain his trust next season.
You see, now that Osvaldo is here, playing well, Conte develops immediate trust on him and starts rotating a lot more with Tevez and Llorente.
The same for the 4 guys and 3 spots in the mid.
Caceres is regaining his full trust and I bet he will rotate more often from now on. The same with Isla.
It's just a matter of quality of the player and confidence by Conte, who clearly does not give much opportunities for a player to gain his trust. He's not very patient.
I feel that Menez would be similar to Osvaldo - would arrive already with some expectations from Conte, which would lead to more rotation uprfont and scheme change - with Isla/Giovinco playing more often, or even Marchisio/Vidal/Pogba playing in more advanced positions in the mid.
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Hopefully Ogbonna is the one to gain his trust next season.
Morata is so fucking over-rated. What has he done/accomplished to warrant such a high valuation?- Status