Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2014-15) (8 Viewers)

[Hist]

Valencia is garbage and you rate Candreva so I can't really accept your opinion.

I don't see how you can say Nani thinks he is Robben yet Candreva is like Quag and shots on the sight of goal

Candreva is not Garbage he is an above average reliable player with occasional moments of great football. I dont want him for a permanent starting spot in a 4-3-3 I want him for rotation with Licht at RWB in a 3-5-2 or as an RW for a mid-game shift to 4-3-3. The same for Valencia. I'd understand your objections if I wanted either of them for a permanent starting spot for a 4-3-3. It goes without saying that they arent good enough to warrant a permanent spot or a permanent switch of formations. I doubt either would complain much about being used in rotation.

He is a marchisio like player just devoted for the right side of the team rather than central midfield.

EDIT: Valencia> Nani as a purchase given our needs and budget not as an individual player is what I was arguing. I'd say buying lulic and coentrao is also more urgent.

 

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[Ocelot]

You guys are drunk right? Valencia is garbage.

He's better than Isla defensively and can cross. He's not a star signing, but a solid player for something like 13 million.

Nani is a complete wildcard, mostly due to his injuries. I actually have the strong feeling that he would do very well here under Conte IF fit, but that is a huge if.

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

Valencia is a joke, and if Nani comes it won't be as a rarely used back-up. So Valencia is not even an alternative to him.

 

[Suns]

Valencia > Nani. Smaller wages, can track back and defend (employable as RWB and RW), more consistent (though nani at his best is better), publicly stated that he wants to leave, incredible pace, very good cross. Valencia or Candreva for me. Nani thinks he is Arjen Robben when he is more of an arron lennon.

You can always teach tracking back and applying pressure on opponents but you can never teach offence and technical ability. Get Nani.

 

[Hist]

Valencia is a joke, and if Nani comes it won't be as a rarely used back-up. So Valencia is not even an alternative to him.

He is probably an alternative by virtue of our small budget but ofcoarse he plays a different position and Nani would probably be a starter in a 4-3-3. I doubt we will make a permanent switch though.
Valencia would be a used back up/roation player not a rarely used one in a 3-5-2.

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You can always teach tracking back and applying pressure on opponents but you can never teach offence and technical ability. Get Nani.

Again in a 4-3-3 I dont mind Nani at all and I do agree conte could make him track back. But as a wing-back its a different set of defensive duties.

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

Defenders in Serie A rarely come up against Wingers, anY direct and pacey Winger can really cause havoc in this league. Teams are too used to slow, methodical play and relying on wing-backs to do everything. Nani and Licht would exploit teams quite badly. And when they inevitably get one of their CMs to help the wing-back, it leaves our world class midfield even more space.

 

[TheLaz]

GTFO with money sucking Scumchester fanboy players!!!
There's no point in signing 28+ years old Man U players on a € 4+m a season contracts!!!!

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

Good thing Nani is 27 then.

 

[TheLaz]

Bad thing he's closer to 5m a season in wages

 

[zizinho]

whats the situation with Storari and his contract renewing? will we renew or look for another option as a 2nd keeper? also, how good is actually Rubinho? is he capable of being the 2nd keeper next season? and why do we need three keepers when everyone has 2 and uses someone form the youth as the 3rd occasionaly? if Rubinho stays then (and if hes good enough to be our 2nd keeper) we wouldnt need to look for another keeper if storari leaves. Buffon, Rubinho/new GK, Primavera GK seems enough...

 

[LiquidPLP]

He is probably an alternative by virtue of our small budget but ofcoarse he plays a different position and Nani would probably be a starter in a 4-3-3. I doubt we will make a permanent switch though.
Valencia would be a used back up/roation player not a rarely used one in a 3-5-2.

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Again in a 4-3-3 I dont mind Nani at all and I do agree conte could make him track back. But as a wing-back its a different set of defensive duties.

He's not coming to play wingack ffs. If he comes it means Conte strongly wants the switch. There's really no other explanation. Nani doesn't fit 352 at all. If Valencia comes we can take a guess which one (352 or 433) Conte wants to play. With Nani it's easy to predict.

IMO we need more Nani than Valencia. We've got a lot of hardworking players and we need more talent upfront. Nani is not considered WC anymore but neither Tevez and Llorente did when they came here. He can get a new start here and some slow-bloke defenders to kill and start regaining form again. If Gervinho can kill them Nani will eat them alive.

Nani can deliver killer passes and quality crosses as well as counter attacking threat. Good in possession as well. He's no perfect but I'll take him ahead of Valencia, Candreva or other Biabiany-like runners.

 

[Mark]

whats the situation with Storari and his contract renewing? will we renew or look for another option as a 2nd keeper? also, how good is actually Rubinho? is he capable of being the 2nd keeper next season? and why do we need three keepers when everyone has 2 and uses someone form the youth as the 3rd occasionaly? if Rubinho stays then (and if hes good enough to be our 2nd keeper) we wouldnt need to look for another keeper if storari leaves. Buffon, Rubinho/new GK, Primavera GK seems enough...

I think we're trying to re-sign him. Depends what he wants. Does he want to win a CL as a backup or just play as a started somewhere and win nothing?

I think he'll re-sign 1 more year.

Rubinho is cack. He's juts a good guy in the locker room.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

I think we're trying to re-sign him. Depends what he wants. Does he want to win a CL as a backup or just play as a started somewhere and win nothing?

I think he'll re-sign 1 more year.

Rubinho is cack. He's juts a good guy in the locker room.

You mean Win the Coppa Italia as numero uno

 

[zizinho]

He's not coming to play wingack ffs. If he comes it means Conte strongly wants the switch. There's really no other explanation. Nani doesn't fit 352 at all. If Valencia comes we can take a guess which one (352 or 433) Conte wants to play. With Nani it's easy to predict.

IMO we need more Nani than Valencia. We've got a lot of hardworking players and we need more talent upfront. Nani is not considered WC anymore but neither Tevez and Llorente did when they came here. He can get a new start here and some slow-bloke defenders to kill and start regaining form again. If Gervinho can kill them Nani will eat them alive.

Nani can deliver killer passes and quality crosses as well as counter attacking threat. Good in possession as well. He's no perfect but I'll take him ahead of Valencia, Candreva or other Biabiany-like runners.

i agree. Nani over Valencia. a fit and motivated Nani is a great player. but, Valencia wouldnt be bad either. he can play winger, wingback and fullback, can cross, can outrun anyone in the world (i read an article where he is the fastest player in the world, ahead of Bale, Walcott, Ronaldo...) and is a solid crosser. you cant compare him to Biabiany because Valencia is miles ahead of him....

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I think we're trying to re-sign him. Depends what he wants. Does he want to win a CL as a backup or just play as a started somewhere and win nothing?

I think he'll re-sign 1 more year.

Rubinho is cack. He's juts a good guy in the locker room.

thanks . but why did we sign this guy in the 1st place. such an un-needed signing. before we had Manninger as a 3rd keeper. do we really need 3 (old) GKs...

 

[adRHCP]

I'm not sure about him being the fastest in the world, but yes, Valencia is fast as fuck. He is a hard-working and humble player. But if I recall correctly he doesn't has "amazing" crosses, sometimes he puts good ones, but most of the time his crosses are really low and close to the keeper, we would need one tap-in goalscorer like Chicharito to make the best out of it

IMO we would be better with Nani, I'm not sure if Utd would want to sell Valencia in the first place. But if we're going to get a winger we should get Nani and hope we can pull another Pirlo/Barzagli/Tevez/etc and get a good winger for a low fee. If we want an "offensive" RWB we should get Candreva, who could also play RW and CM. Fantastic if you ask me. And that way Nani could play LW with Candreva in the RW.

Nani, Candreva, Lulic, Immobile :xfinger:

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

I'd take that Mercato definitely. Add in another CM though because our current lot have been fatigued this season.

 

[zizinho]

I'm not sure about him being the fastest in the world, but yes, Valencia is fast as $#@!. He is a hard-working and humble player. But if I recall correctly he doesn't has "amazing" crosses, sometimes he puts good ones, but most of the time his crosses are really low and close to the keeper, we would need one tap-in goalscorer like Chicharito to make the best out of it

IMO we would be better with Nani, I'm not sure if Utd would want to sell Valencia in the first place. But if we're going to get a winger we should get Nani and hope we can pull another Pirlo/Barzagli/Tevez/etc and get a good winger for a low fee. If we want an "offensive" RWB we should get Candreva, who could also play RW and CM. Fantastic if you ask me. And that way Nani could play LW with Candreva in the RW.

Nani, Candreva, Lulic, Immobile :xfinger:

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and thats the players we will get. just replace Candreva with Pereyra, and maybe (if a miracle happens) one of Cuadrado/Sanchez

 

[AOD4]

If we are sticking to 3-5-2, Valencia is a sweet deal on the right side. He has the stamina, pace and defensively he isn't that bad. He is an excellent signing to replace Isla and provide cover/competition to Lichtsteiner.

 

[adRHCP]

I'd rather get Candreva than Pereyra, that way, along with Lulic being a competent sub for Asamoah, we have an emergency CM, and actually a good one, who could also be a RWB and RW for the 433. He's just better suitedf or our needs and covers more positions than Pereyra. I actually kinda consider Candreva an improvement on Padoin since they both can play on similar positions.

And also, I really don't know who we could bring if we really need another CM. Maybe Fausto Rossi since he's free and one of our boys.

I don't think we should think there will be a lot of changes. And 5 signings or even 6 is a lot if you ask me, add that to the sells. Vucinic/Giovinco, Quagliarella, Isla, Peluso, De Ceglie and Motta out; Immobile, Nani, Candreva, Lulic, Rossi and Ranocchia/Paletta in. There's 12 people involved there, a lot of change for just one transfer period, considering we could also catch Murru or Ménez for free, that's a lot.

 

[AOD4]

I'd rather get Candreva than Pereyra, that way, along with Lulic being a competent sub for Asamoah, we have an emergency CM, and actually a good one, who could also be a RWB and RW for the 433. He's just better suitedf or our needs and covers more positions than Pereyra. I actually kinda consider Candreva an improvement on Padoin since they both can play on similar positions.

And also, I really don't know who we could bring if we really need another CM. Maybe Fausto Rossi since he's free and one of our boys.

I don't think we should think there will be a lot of changes. And 5 signings or even 6 is a lot if you ask me, add that to the sells. Vucinic/Giovinco, Quagliarella, Isla, Peluso, De Ceglie and Motta out; Immobile, Nani, Candreva, Lulic, Rossi and Ranocchia/Paletta in. There's 12 people involved there, a lot of change for just one transfer period, considering we could also catch Murru or Ménez for free, that's a lot.

Rakitic from Sevilla is a pretty awesome for CM. He is on his last year of his contract , we could land him for a knockdown and we have good relationship with Sevilla as well.