Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2013-14) (48 Viewers)

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baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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uff, now i have to redo my ranking

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i suppose draxler isnt "cheap" anymore :p

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1) Llorente(targetman) , Higuain (mobile 9)

2) Vucinic (support) , Higuain (classic 9)

3) Vucinic (creative freerole) , Llorente (targetman)

4) Llorente (targetman) , Giovinco (mobile am)

5) Higuain (classic9) , Giovinco (mobile am)

6) Vucinic (support) , matri (chasing the ball)

7) Vucinic (support) , Giovinco (scoring rugby goals)

8) Giovinco (getting knocked over) , Matri (somewere)

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Llorente - higuain is by a countrymile the greatest duo we could field

and iaquinta's contract is ending
I would say Vucinic-Llorente would work just as well for me. I can't see Llorente on the bench at 4.5m a season. Unless Marrotta went ahead with this deal because it had a 0 transfer fee, without Conte's consent.

If Higuain arrives with Llorente, (I can safely assume that Anelka, Iaquinta, Bendtner are no longer with us), that leaves us with: Llorente, Higuain, Vucinic, Giovinco, Matri, Quags.

Now, one of Quags or Matri is highly likely to leave. Higuain would cost us around EU25m in transfer fee I guess and would have a salary of around EU3.5m net a year. If one of Matri/Quags leaves that could give us around EU8-10m in transfer fee if we are lucky.

So interms of net outlay? It would be EU15-18m.

Wages? Llorente I think will be on EU3.5m a year net as well - so both the new forward will have a collective NET wage bill of 9m or (EU18m gross wage expense for Juve).

However, Iaquinta is costing us EU5.6m gross (or EU2.8m net) and either Matri or Quags is making EU3.6m gross or EU1.8m net. Bendtner was also similar in terms of wages. In total there is a saving of EU6.4m net (or EU12.8m gross).

Overall our wage bill for the forwards increases by ~EU5mpa (gross).

We could live with that strikeforce.

However, if we wanted to upgrade it further by UPGRADING on one of Vucinic or Giovinco by targetting a support striker like, Suarez for instance, then that would cost us quite a bit unless we sold both Vucinic and Giovinco. Vucinic and Giovinco combined should give us EU20-25m, while someone like Suarez would cost us EU35m realistically. Wages for Suarez will be just under the total of Giovinco and Vucinic combined.

We could then bring in Boakye as our 5th striker. Traditionally the 5th striker should be a yound player and not a huge name.

Its hard to do, but it is POSSIBLE that Juve would have the means to have the following strike force: Higuain, Llorente, Suarez, Quagliarella, Boakye. Net Transfer outlay would be around EU25-30m and wage bill would be up by only EU5m gross. Definately possible but still unlikely as it requires Marotta to be able to sell players well! Not something he is good at.
Higuain! Llorente, Suarez, Quag, Boakye/Gabbiadini is a dream line up. As unlikely as it will shape up this way, you must also consider that Juve is a building club and an under construction site. No way, will we revolutionize the attack. It has to happen in phases, coz Conte will have his work cut out to implement his ideas with a whole new line line, rather than gradually break them in playing with people who get the system.

Cavani, Juve covers you in gold

33m contract over 5 years

meeting with ADL

-Tuttosport

Laugh away.
35m plus Gio plus Matri/DeCeglie. Do it Beppe. :tuttosport:


Some more Tuttosport bs for you lot

Jovetic: "It gives me satisfaction that a club as important as Juventus is interested in me."

Juve offer is 15 million + Matri + half of Marrone - TS


Isnt that the same bullshit offer they made up last season?
It's not a bullshit offer to begin with. It could've been true. The reason that whatever offer we had didn't go through, was not because the offer wasn't tempting or good enough. It was perhaps because we didn't give Fiorentina enough time to find adequate reinforcements if they lost Jojo.

10-12m plus Matri plus 1/2 Marrone is fair IMO.

Llorente and Higuain will make you forget Cavani :D

As for JoJo, it really depends on whether he wants to stay in Italy or not. If he wants to stay, Purple Rats miss out on the CL (looking increasingly likely), and we offer them both Marrone, one of Matri or Quag, and a sizable cash component, I don't see why we can't get him.

I don't see anyone else in Italy being able to afford him (apart from Napoli; Milan don't need him), and I doubt he'd wanna go there once Cavani leaves :boh:
Quag + Marrone + 15M = JoJo is more like it ;)

Matri + Isla + 45M = Cavani :D
I'm sorry for the lovers here but Higuain + Jovetic would be a much better fit than only Cavani.
No way. Cavani will take this team to the next level immediately. And even give us a fair shot at the CL this season itself. The qualities he possesses would be further accented under Conte. Jojo and Higuain would need more time to settle while Conte finds the ideal combination. Cavani won't need any of that.
 

baggio

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I recall you saying Cavani wasn't Juve material because of the way he acted in the Coppa Final. Things changed then? :p
He behaved like a bit of an ass with our players back then, didn't he? But the last game he showed a bit more respect to Pirlo etc. :p

And what can I say, Bendtner and Anelka left me a broken man?? :D I'd kill to have Cavani here if it was possible. This Juve with Cavani would be something else.
 
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He behaved like a bit of an ass with our players back then, didn't he? But the last game he showed a bit more respect to Pirlo etc. :p

And what can I say, Bendtner and Anelka left me a broken man?? :D I'd kill to have Cavani here if it was possible. This Juve with Cavani would be something else.
I thought you'd react in a similar way after the Chiellini vs Cavani battle, glad you've come to your senses :D

Yeah he's the ideal striker.
 

Zacheryah

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I would say Vucinic-Llorente would work just as well for me. I can't see Llorente on the bench at 4.5m a season. Unless Marrotta went ahead with this deal because it had a 0 transfer fee, without Conte's consent.


No way. Cavani will take this team to the next level immediately. And even give us a fair shot at the CL this season itself. The qualities he possesses would be further accented under Conte. Jojo and Higuain would need more time to settle while Conte finds the ideal combination. Cavani won't need any of that.[/ARTICLES]
oh i'm just listing the order of play. If llorente is fit he should allways play. this is merely my opinion of how the rangorder should be if injuries, suspensions or unfit player occurs.

But higuain+llorente or jovetic would work better then just cavani.

i dont really see cavani and llorente partner well
 

baggio

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I thought you'd react in a similar way after the Chiellini vs Cavani battle, glad you've come to your senses :D

Yeah he's the ideal striker.
Bro, after Anelka and Bendtner, Cavani could've tried the tombstone on Chiellini in return, and I'd still have him here. :D it's in our best interests.

oh i'm just listing the order of play. If llorente is fit he should allways play. this is merely my opinion of how the rangorder should be if injuries, suspensions or unfit player occurs.

But higuain+llorente or jovetic would work better then just cavani.

i dont really see cavani and llorente partner well
How about 35m plus Llorente? Marrotta masterstroke. :D
 

baggio

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Cavani's real worth is about 35m IMO. The clause misrepresents the value of players. That's more about their worth to the club and the club milking a sale to sustain such a loss.

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Nah, he's not worth the money de laurentis is asking
30m-35m plus Llorente would be an interesting bid IMO. He may not be worth that, but we'll spend big and bring him here to bench a player who wouldn't fit as well together.

If Cavani was coming, I'd give up on Llorente and retain Vucinic, so I had a more compatible duo. Rather than spend big on a player and have anther expensive one on the bench. Anyway, redundant discussion.
 

Gian

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In:
Higuain - 20M
Llorente - 0M
Peluso - 5M
Asamoah's half - 9M.
Berardi - 3M
Poli's half - 4M

Out:
Matri and Quags - 12-15M
Padoin - 2M
Melo and Ziegler - 5M

Renew Isla's co-own.

Net spend: something around 25M

:tuttosport:
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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I think that cavani works best as a lone striker, or in a 4-3-3 with skillfull players on the flank

In a two striker partnership, less.

Also i'm drooling over the Higuain - Llorente partnership :p

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In:
Higuain - 20M
Llorente - 0M
Peluso - 5M
Asamoah's half - 9M.
Berardi - 3M
Poli's half - 4M

Out:
Matri and Quags - 12-15M
Padoin - 2M
Melo and Ziegler - 5M

Renew Isla's co-own.

Net spend: something around 25M

:tuttosport:
why would you sell pado ?
 

Gian

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Apr 12, 2009
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We're stacked for RWB. Isla, Pepe, Licht and Caceres could all play there and do a good job. And we'll find a younger and more skilled CM in Poli.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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caceres is the first standin cb

licht is the starter, yeah

Pepe and isla have everything to prove next season. currently, pado actually played better games there. apart from isla's last game.
 
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