Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2013-14) (17 Viewers)

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baggio

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I'd certainly be disappointed if we didn't improve our attacking third. I take into account the signing of Llorente also.

Nani I see as a real possibility if we are interested, he's out of favour there and has one year left.

Any of the Ibra/Higuain/Sanchez/Jovetic etc deals are always difficult, it's the most difficult transfer to make for a club in our position (money to pay a market fee and salary, but not beyond that). Those are often settle by details. As I said some time before, we need our targets to not be chased by money clubs.

Ibrahimovic seems like a possibility, but I don't see any long term thinking in signing him and Diamanti plus a Lulic type player. That looks very short term, in two years we might be trying to sign a quality forward again.
Nani for me is surprisingly going unnoticed by most of the money clubs, although I'm sure he'll find buyers in Anzhi, Zenit etc as soon as the mercato opens, which may complicate our wage offering to him and scupper the deal in the process. That's my biggest worry as far as he's concerned, otherwise, he's well within our parameters, surprisingly. I don't consider him to be a WC player, but he's definitely a quality upgrade who could help us step things up, when used correctly.

Ibra for me, is the easiest of the other deals (in terms of agent, player acceptance etc) and the most realistic. I don't deny him to be a short term signing, quite like Pirlo. But he offers e kind of guarantees few other players in the world can offer us at the moment. With this signing, we'd probably buy ourselves at least 3 years to scout/groom/build capital to invest in a worthy successor because with a player like Ibra, we would supplement income on the pitch with better results in the CL and merchandise sales. It's a bit of a vicious cycle, and one that might be a win-win in this case.

Higuain, while I like him, I don't think he would be the best way to invest right now, with Llorente's acquisition. Who, I personally think isn't going to hit the ground running either, so he's a bit of a question mark anyway. But I hope we can optimize our resources and this wouldn't be it.

Sanchez, good player. Good investment. But not a game changer, although fairly realistic keeping in mind his salary requirements, time in Italy and Barca's own rejigging of their front line. He would be available for a decemt price too. And for me, he would make a better complement to Llorente than perhaps Higuain.

Jojo ias much as people rate him here, I think he isn't growing as quickly as most tend to project. Talented player but still some way to go before he can be considered good enough to be a game changing player at a big club like Juve. Unless he's coming with another stellar signing, I don't think he could take us up in quality, alone. Add to that his price tag, which in my estimate, he isn't worth.

Diamanti is a classic Marrotta/Conte hard working player, depth move. I think he's an ok player but that 6m plus a youngster can wait till the end of the mercato.

Suarez/Ibra are the only true star signings we have been linked with and I sincerely hope we can bring one of them on board.

Lulic is a wise move but not for the rumored 15m. Kolarov could be acquired for less than that. Again, it's very hard to say how we are planning to approach next year. I'd like the 433 which would make players like Nani and Sanchez paramount, alongside Ibra.
 

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Roman

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Apr 19, 2003
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Would you admittedly be disappointed if we didn't make at least one quality signing? This mercato is very different from the previous two under Marrotta's reign, for the simple reason, that depth was a legit excuse. We have passed that stage, and the only way this team can take things up a notch is with a bit of quality. Ibra, Lulic and maybe even Nani if we sacrifice a player is not something I'd consider unrealistic. We should be expecting that level at the very least IMO.
Nani for me is surprisingly going unnoticed by most of the money clubs, although I'm sure he'll find buyers in Anzhi, Zenit etc as soon as the mercato opens, which may complicate our wage offering to him and scupper the deal in the process. That's my biggest worry as far as he's concerned, otherwise, he's well within our parameters, surprisingly. I don't consider him to be a WC player, but he's definitely a quality upgrade who could help us step things up, when used correctly.

Ibra for me, is the easiest of the other deals (in terms of agent, player acceptance etc) and the most realistic. I don't deny him to be a short term signing, quite like Pirlo. But he offers e kind of guarantees few other players in the world can offer us at the moment. With this signing, we'd probably buy ourselves at least 3 years to scout/groom/build capital to invest in a worthy successor because with a player like Ibra, we would supplement income on the pitch with better results in the CL and merchandise sales. It's a bit of a vicious cycle, and one that might be a win-win in this case.

Higuain, while I like him, I don't think he would be the best way to invest right now, with Llorente's acquisition. Who, I personally think isn't going to hit the ground running either, so he's a bit of a question mark anyway. But I hope we can optimize our resources and this wouldn't be it.

Sanchez, good player. Good investment. But not a game changer, although fairly realistic keeping in mind his salary requirements, time in Italy and Barca's own rejigging of their front line. He would be available for a decemt price too. And for me, he would make a better complement to Llorente than perhaps Higuain.

Jojo ias much as people rate him here, I think he isn't growing as quickly as most tend to project. Talented player but still some way to go before he can be considered good enough to be a game changing player at a big club like Juve. Unless he's coming with another stellar signing, I don't think he could take us up in quality, alone. Add to that his price tag, which in my estimate, he isn't worth.

Diamanti is a classic Marrotta/Conte hard working player, depth move. I think he's an ok player but that 6m plus a youngster can wait till the end of the mercato.

Suarez/Ibra are the only true star signings we have been linked with and I sincerely hope we can bring one of them on board.

Lulic is a wise move but not for the rumored 15m. Kolarov could be acquired for less than that. Again, it's very hard to say how we are planning to approach next year. I'd like the 433 which would make players like Nani and Sanchez paramount, alongside Ibra.
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Spot on.
 

Vlad

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May 23, 2011
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Nani for me is surprisingly going unnoticed by most of the money clubs, although I'm sure he'll find buyers in Anzhi, Zenit etc as soon as the mercato opens, which may complicate our wage offering to him and scupper the deal in the process. That's my biggest worry as far as he's concerned, otherwise, he's well within our parameters, surprisingly. I don't consider him to be a WC player, but he's definitely a quality upgrade who could help us step things up, when used correctly.
He would be a good solution. Very pacey, good dribbler, and game changer. I'm also surprised with a lack of interest.

Ibra for me, is the easiest of the other deals (in terms of agent, player acceptance etc) and the most realistic. I don't deny him to be a short term signing, quite like Pirlo. But he offers e kind of guarantees few other players in the world can offer us at the moment. With this signing, we'd probably buy ourselves at least 3 years to scout/groom/build capital to invest in a worthy successor because with a player like Ibra, we would supplement income on the pitch with better results in the CL and merchandise sales. It's a bit of a vicious cycle, and one that might be a win-win in this case.
Agree. His age and wages might be the problems but when you look at the teams he played for and how much he contributed no one can deny his WC abilities. And he definitely would bring us more commercial revenues.

Higuain, while I like him, I don't think he would be the best way to invest right now, with Llorente's acquisition. Who, I personally think isn't going to hit the ground running either, so he's a bit of a question mark anyway. But I hope we can optimize our resources and this wouldn't be it.
I watch Madrid quite often and I've never seen anything special in Higuain. Given the price on the market he isn't worth it.

Sanchez, good player. Good investment. But not a game changer, although fairly realistic keeping in mind his salary requirements, time in Italy and Barca's own rejigging of their front line. He would be available for a decemt price too. And for me, he would make a better complement to Llorente than perhaps Higuain.
Again I agree.

Jojo ias much as people rate him here, I think he isn't growing as quickly as most tend to project. Talented player but still some way to go before he can be considered good enough to be a game changing player at a big club like Juve. Unless he's coming with another stellar signing, I don't think he could take us up in quality, alone. Add to that his price tag, which in my estimate, he isn't worth.
You hit the spot with this one. I like Jojo but he hasn't developed over the years the way it was expected from him. Probably because of injuries.
 

Orgut

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Dec 31, 2002
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Numbers are sometimes stupid. Statistics are like mini skirts, hide the most important things.

Looking at that you'd say he's better than Ronaldo, which is rather idiotic.
Look at what the table stands for!
It doesnt stand for being the best player in the world! It stands for being the deadliest which mean he is a scoring machine
Stats say he scores a lot and he surely is
Dont know what is going on with Real this season but I remember last season when he was benched with Benz starting instead of him but still Higuain scored more on less appearences
Ronaldo is also a scoring machine and Higuain`s top spot doesnt mean he is the best finisher. It means he is definitely a great finisher

Would I want Higuain here with us?! Well there are some great players we have been linked with such as Ibra and Suarez so I`d definitely rather have those than Higuain BUT I have to say signing Higuain would mean we would have a great forward instead an average forward like Matri
 

Miki

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Jun 18, 2008
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If we could get Nani, that would mean switching to 4-4-2, or even better 4-3-3, so the weakest link would be the LB position.
Getting Coentrao would be unrealistic, so maybe someone like Ansaldi? Or stick with Peluso, I'm ok with that.
So basically, I wouldn't be too disappointed if we sign only Nani. It's what Bendtners of the world did to me, I guess. :p


Sure I would love to see Pool's madman here, but I don't know if we have the cash, especially if the big spending clubs get in the game.

Also, one of Sanchez, Jovetić, Ibra is welcome to come... I'm not too picky, considering I so badly want Juve to have someone that can actually dribble past players.
I've been spoiled by having Del Piero in the team for all these years, but, hey, what can you do...
 

Vlad

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May 23, 2011
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Look at what the table stands for!
It doesnt stand for being the best player in the world! It stands for being the deadliest which mean he is a scoring machine
Stats say he scores a lot and he surely is
Dont know what is going on with Real this season but I remember last season when he was benched with Benz starting instead of him but still Higuain scored more on less appearences
Ronaldo is also a scoring machine and Higuain`s top spot doesnt mean he is the best finisher. It means he is definitely a great finisher

Would I want Higuain here with us?! Well there are some great players we have been linked with such as Ibra and Suarez so I`d definitely rather have those than Higuain BUT I have to say signing Higuain would mean we would have a great forward instead an average forward like Matri
And he misses a lot. He is terrible finisher. Having Ozil, Di Maria and Ronaldo behind him make him a better player than he actually is. He's been very wasteful. I watch RM whenever I have a chance and Higuain is very frustrating player. Here he would flop majorly.
 

zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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And he misses a lot. He is terrible finisher. Having Ozil, Di Maria and Ronaldo behind him make him a better player than he actually is. He's been very wasteful. I watch RM whenever I have a chance and Higuain is very frustrating player. Here he would flop majorly.
I agree. + hes a choker in big games, an argument people bring in when someone mentions Ibrahimovic
 

petersmit

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Mar 14, 2006
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Nani for me is surprisingly going unnoticed by most of the money clubs, although I'm sure he'll find buyers in Anzhi, Zenit etc as soon as the mercato opens, which may complicate our wage offering to him and scupper the deal in the process. That's my biggest worry as far as he's concerned, otherwise, he's well within our parameters, surprisingly. I don't consider him to be a WC player, but he's definitely a quality upgrade who could help us step things up, when used correctly.

Ibra for me, is the easiest of the other deals (in terms of agent, player acceptance etc) and the most realistic. I don't deny him to be a short term signing, quite like Pirlo. But he offers e kind of guarantees few other players in the world can offer us at the moment. With this signing, we'd probably buy ourselves at least 3 years to scout/groom/build capital to invest in a worthy successor because with a player like Ibra, we would supplement income on the pitch with better results in the CL and merchandise sales. It's a bit of a vicious cycle, and one that might be a win-win in this case.

Higuain, while I like him, I don't think he would be the best way to invest right now, with Llorente's acquisition. Who, I personally think isn't going to hit the ground running either, so he's a bit of a question mark anyway. But I hope we can optimize our resources and this wouldn't be it.

Sanchez, good player. Good investment. But not a game changer, although fairly realistic keeping in mind his salary requirements, time in Italy and Barca's own rejigging of their front line. He would be available for a decemt price too. And for me, he would make a better complement to Llorente than perhaps Higuain.

Jojo ias much as people rate him here, I think he isn't growing as quickly as most tend to project. Talented player but still some way to go before he can be considered good enough to be a game changing player at a big club like Juve. Unless he's coming with another stellar signing, I don't think he could take us up in quality, alone. Add to that his price tag, which in my estimate, he isn't worth.

Diamanti is a classic Marrotta/Conte hard working player, depth move. I think he's an ok player but that 6m plus a youngster can wait till the end of the mercato.

Suarez/Ibra are the only true star signings we have been linked with and I sincerely hope we can bring one of them on board.

Lulic is a wise move but not for the rumored 15m. Kolarov could be acquired for less than that. Again, it's very hard to say how we are planning to approach next year. I'd like the 433 which would make players like Nani and Sanchez paramount, alongside Ibra.
spot on! + rep! exactly my opinion
 

Hist

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Jan 18, 2009
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Nani for me is surprisingly going unnoticed by most of the money clubs, although I'm sure he'll find buyers in Anzhi, Zenit etc as soon as the mercato opens, which may complicate our wage offering to him and scupper the deal in the process. That's my biggest worry as far as he's concerned, otherwise, he's well within our parameters, surprisingly. I don't consider him to be a WC player, but he's definitely a quality upgrade who could help us step things up, when used correctly.

Ibra for me, is the easiest of the other deals (in terms of agent, player acceptance etc) and the most realistic. I don't deny him to be a short term signing, quite like Pirlo. But he offers e kind of guarantees few other players in the world can offer us at the moment. With this signing, we'd probably buy ourselves at least 3 years to scout/groom/build capital to invest in a worthy successor because with a player like Ibra, we would supplement income on the pitch with better results in the CL and merchandise sales. It's a bit of a vicious cycle, and one that might be a win-win in this case.

Higuain, while I like him, I don't think he would be the best way to invest right now, with Llorente's acquisition. Who, I personally think isn't going to hit the ground running either, so he's a bit of a question mark anyway. But I hope we can optimize our resources and this wouldn't be it.

Sanchez, good player. Good investment. But not a game changer, although fairly realistic keeping in mind his salary requirements, time in Italy and Barca's own rejigging of their front line. He would be available for a decemt price too. And for me, he would make a better complement to Llorente than perhaps Higuain.

Jojo ias much as people rate him here, I think he isn't growing as quickly as most tend to project. Talented player but still some way to go before he can be considered good enough to be a game changing player at a big club like Juve. Unless he's coming with another stellar signing, I don't think he could take us up in quality, alone. Add to that his price tag, which in my estimate, he isn't worth.

Diamanti is a classic Marrotta/Conte hard working player, depth move. I think he's an ok player but that 6m plus a youngster can wait till the end of the mercato.

Suarez/Ibra are the only true star signings we have been linked with and I sincerely hope we can bring one of them on board.

Lulic is a wise move but not for the rumored 15m. Kolarov could be acquired for less than that. Again, it's very hard to say how we are planning to approach next year. I'd like the 433 which would make players like Nani and Sanchez paramount, alongside Ibra.
I agree on everything you said except that I see Jojo as a better signing than Sanchez and Nani. They've had more than enough chances with very strong squads that smash 90% of the teams they face with relative ease and they have both flopped (sanchez more obviously). Jojo's growth might have been slower than what was expected of someone with his talent maybe but Sanchez's growth in particular has not only stopped but also regressed for some time now.

Ibra (as you said) is the only guranteed hit out of the lot.. too bad he is only a short term solution.
 

j0ker

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Jan 5, 2006
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Every season people say we don't have money.. but still we manage to spend a lot:

2012/2013 - 47.432.000£
2011/2012 - 88.616.000£
2010/2011 - 53.310.400£
2009/2010 - 52.184.000£

And seasons before even more, and all this without the stadium and in most season also without CL with a miserable turnover compared to the current one.

I guess people don't see big numbers on a single player and think we don't spend money but as it shows we have been spending a lot.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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We've spent a fair amount on transfer fees, it's salaries which separate us from the big spenders.

You can take that amount from 2010, 2011 or 2013 and that is what it would cost you to buy one €30m player including salary.
 

j0ker

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Jan 5, 2006
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We've spent a fair amount on transfer fees, it's salaries which separate us from the big spenders.

You can take that amount from 2010, 2011 or 2013 and that is what it would cost you to buy one €30m player including salary.
But it's not like the players we got play for free, 5 players with 2mln wage is not that different from 2 who earn 4-5mln.

Until now I understood getting quantity too fill the team, but we don't need that anymore.
 
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