Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2012-13) (16 Viewers)

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Xperd

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Ziegler:I hope Juve reach agreement with Benfica.

Benfica want him on loan with right to redemption while we want outright sale and Ziegler hopes this situation is quickly resolved.Apparently there is an agreement b/w him and Benfica.
 

LiquidPLP

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he won't be the 1st choice RWB with Isla on the roster.
You can't say that. Licht is our key player while Isla hasn't done anything yet. It's true we have Caceres and Isla for RB / RWB spot but look at them, both with torn ACL and can't play. Licht is like a tank he's never injured, always good in defense and decent going forward.
 

Xperd

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According to O Jogo, Inter Milan have increased their offer for FC Porto left wingback Alvaro Pereira up to 13 million euros, but the Portuguese club requires 15 millions.

Seems like someone who isnt attainable..I mean not in our price range.
 

Joe

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Licht will be sold because our primary formation is a 3-5-2 where Caceres and Isla thrive more.

And we need money.

And when the little time we do play the 4-3-3 Caceres can fill in as a RB.

I'm gonna miss Licht though.
 

LiquidPLP

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Licht will be sold because our primary formation is a 3-5-2 where Caceres and Isla thrive more.

And we need money.

And when the little time we do play the 4-3-3 Caceres can fill in as a RB.

I'm gonna miss Licht though.
I see what you mean but come on. Considering we've got those 20m offered for Llorente + 15m from selling Lichtsteiner we'd have like 35m right? Do you really think we're going to buy a striker for those money? Cavani? Jovetić? Because tbh I really doubt it.

We'll be just weaker and I can't see us getting top class forward this or the other way.
 

Joe

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I see what you mean but come on. Considering we've got those 20m offered for Llorente + 15m from selling Lichtsteiner we'd have like 35m right? Do you really think we're going to buy a striker for those money? Cavani? Jovetić? Because tbh I really doubt it.

We'll be just weaker and I can't see us getting top class forward this or the other way.
If we sell Licht just for money, and don't reinvest in a top striker...:inter:

If we sell him and invest in a top striker I can see why we did, its sad, but its better for the club.
 

Joe

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I see what you mean but come on. Considering we've got those 20m offered for Llorente + 15m from selling Lichtsteiner we'd have like 35m right? Do you really think we're going to buy a striker for those money? Cavani? Jovetić? Because tbh I really doubt it.

We'll be just weaker and I can't see us getting top class forward this or the other way.
If we sell Licht just for money, and don't reinvest in a top striker...:inter:

If we sell him and invest in a top striker I can see why we did, its sad, but its better for the club.

---------- Post added 21.08.2012 at 20:40 ----------

Di Marizio: No offer from PSG for Lichtsteiner.
 

PedroFlu

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My theory:

The failure to sell Felipe Melo has caused a little bit of panic. The club said several times both before and during the mercato that a large chunk of the money for the mercato would have to be generated through player sales. The price for Melo was set to 13, but I think Juve expected at least 8. Instead, we got 1,5 million for the loan.

There are a bunch of members here who think that we've already set aside the 20 to 20+ million required to land a top striker, but there's really nothing to suggest that is the case. Quite the opposite: our pursuit of a striker is dragging on, and has been dragging on, due to a lack of funds.
Yeah, that's very possible.

I mean, how much have we spent/commited to spend (installments) already? I'm including Boakye because Immobile's half rights were sold in january, a different sports season.

Giocinco - 11M
Isla - 9.4M
Asamoah - 9M
Caceres - 8M
Giaccherini - 4.25M
Boakye - 4M
Leali - 3.8M
Gabbiadini - 1.5M
Masi - 1M
Leo Bonatini - 1M

Total: 54M.

Considering we will get Peluso (6M) + a 19M striker = 79M projected expenditure.

Players sold:

Melo - 1.75M (loan)
Krasic - 7M
Elia - 7.5M (with bonus)
Pasquato - 1.5M (co-own) Udinese
Ekdal - 1.2M - Cagliari

Total income on sold players: 19M

So, as of right now, it’s already been a loss of 35M. The projected total cost with transfers would be a loss of more or less 60M. That's a shit load of cash.

Barcelona spent less than 40M. Madrid is spending like 30/35M.

According to transfermarket, United had a total loss this season of 53M euros. Arsenal had a total plus of 11.8M Euros. Liverpool had a loss of 33M euro. Tottenham had a loss of only 6.1M.

I mean, the only 3 clubs in the whole fucking world who would have spent more than us (counting on supposedly more 25M for Peluso and a striker) are PSG, Chelsea (loss of 79M) and maybe Bayern. Even freakin City have yet to spend more 53M to reach us.
Are we that rich? I mean.... it makes a lot of sense that we need to sell Litch to get another good striker. We've spent much more money than it looks like. If we don’t sell, we don’t get more money to spend. It seems like it’s as simple as that.

Summing it up: we've already had a loss of 35M in this mercato. With a striker and Peluso it would be added an additional 25M to this loss. Only 3 or 4 teams in the whole world will have even or bigger losses than that. It makes a lot of sense to sell Litch if there's the opportunity.

And when I come to think of it, I highly doubt that without selling him we'll get some of these high profile CFs.
 

JuveJay

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According to O Jogo, Inter Milan have increased their offer for FC Porto left wingback Alvaro Pereira up to 13 million euros, but the Portuguese club requires 15 millions.

Seems like someone who isnt attainable..I mean not in our price range.
I can't see why Porto (of all clubs) would sell him for less.
 
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