Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2011-12) (71 Viewers)
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Right. My mistake. Let's bring back Pazienza, Sissoko, keep Bonucci, finish installments on Padoin, be thankful for Giach and that fact we have Pepe...
Not because they improve the quality of our team, because they don't...never really did but only for a brief moment...but because they try really hard.
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Sorry for what?
Pepe is not an assister, its the player that runs, pressures and recovers balls for the team, then delivers it to creative players.
he is one of the players carrying the pressure game we play, carrying our defensive power.
giovinco ? has to do nothing at parma, is just free roaming and everyone works for him.
a parked bus ? parma parks the bus
giovinco ? doesnt need to build up, is on the counter, lots of space
he is one of the players carrying the pressure game we play, carrying our defensive power.
giovinco ? has to do nothing at parma, is just free roaming and everyone works for him.
a parked bus ? parma parks the bus
giovinco ? doesnt need to build up, is on the counter, lots of space
Oh dear...where to even start?
Put simply: you said it best, Pepe is just another player at Juve. Nothing more, nothing less. You put Pepe in a team like Parma/Siena, etc...he would never show anything similar to the displays he had earlier in the season. The fact that you are arguing his case is baffling. It really is.
Giovinco, when here, had 3-4 goals and 7 assists with LIMITED playing time behind a Nedved and Del Piero...pepe, who has played with more consistency and a million more minutes still struggles to put up the same numbers as Giovinco, regardless of where he is.
When Gio was here, the team certainly didn't play entirely through him as you are trying to argue with Parma...fact is, regardless of where he is he produces. Again, your argument is invalid.
Put simply: you said it best, Pepe is just another player at Juve. Nothing more, nothing less. You put Pepe in a team like Parma/Siena, etc...he would never show anything similar to the displays he had earlier in the season. The fact that you are arguing his case is baffling. It really is.
Giovinco, when here, had 3-4 goals and 7 assists with LIMITED playing time behind a Nedved and Del Piero...pepe, who has played with more consistency and a million more minutes still struggles to put up the same numbers as Giovinco, regardless of where he is.
When Gio was here, the team certainly didn't play entirely through him as you are trying to argue with Parma...fact is, regardless of where he is he produces. Again, your argument is invalid.
Right. My mistake. Let's bring back Pazienza, Sissoko, keep Bonucci, finish installments on Padoin, be thankful for Giach and that fact we have Pepe...
Not because they improve the quality of our team, because they don't...never really did but only for a brief moment...but because they try really hard.
---------- Post added 15.03.2012 at 16:03 ----------
Sorry for what?
in conte's tactics, thats pressuring and recovering, making space for the more creative players.
in your book, they need to do nothing, magically get the ball because nobody has to work, then make dribbels, fancy flicks crazy crosses and overheadkicks that allways result in assists and goals
padoin and sissoko failed at doing their task, pazienza wasent tactically good enough
Pepe isn't anything. There are plenty of players in Serie A that do that, but if they were here you would probably overrate him as well. Pepe can't cross with any consistency at all, horrible passing and an even worse first touch. Not something a "winger" should be lacking, but he does and if all he does well is work hard then all the more reason to find someone better which won't be hard at all.
---------- Post added 15.03.2012 at 16:12 ----------
We have 9 other field players that work to regain possession dude, not just Pepe.
In my book, they need to do nothing? Fancy flicks? Crazy crosses and overheadkicks that always result in assists and goals? lol how can I take this argument seriously?
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We have 9 other field players that work to regain possession dude, not just Pepe.
In my book, they need to do nothing? Fancy flicks? Crazy crosses and overheadkicks that always result in assists and goals? lol how can I take this argument seriously?
I'm not even sure what we're arguing about anymore looooool
Gio>Pepe that is CLEAR AS DAY! No one ever denied that...but what I am saying is that Pepe's goal\assist tally is something to be reckoned with due to his role at Juventus and his limited amount of skill. You switch Pepe with Gio, Pepe in Parma and Gio in Juve. Pepe won't have the same effect as Gio had in Parma, because they're not the same type of player.
What I was trying to argue is that Pepe goal\assist tally is MUCH more impressive than Gio's because of the circumstances mentioned earlier. And Pepe has a very specific role in this squad that helps the team perform well which Gio obviously CANNOT accomplish.
Gio>Pepe that is CLEAR AS DAY! No one ever denied that...but what I am saying is that Pepe's goal\assist tally is something to be reckoned with due to his role at Juventus and his limited amount of skill. You switch Pepe with Gio, Pepe in Parma and Gio in Juve. Pepe won't have the same effect as Gio had in Parma, because they're not the same type of player.
What I was trying to argue is that Pepe goal\assist tally is MUCH more impressive than Gio's because of the circumstances mentioned earlier. And Pepe has a very specific role in this squad that helps the team perform well which Gio obviously CANNOT accomplish.
the only problem here, is that hustini doesnt understand what working players do, and that they carry a team
gattuso, cambiasso, mascherano, keane, effenberg
all players that were massive at killing other teams, but very poor technically. yet they were the drive for their team.
sometimes you get blessed, that they have skill like davids, vieira, emerson, essien, makelele(arguable)
but their duty, remains the same
gattuso, cambiasso, mascherano, keane, effenberg
all players that were massive at killing other teams, but very poor technically. yet they were the drive for their team.
sometimes you get blessed, that they have skill like davids, vieira, emerson, essien, makelele(arguable)
but their duty, remains the same
Dude...everyone know Gio is much more skilled than Pepe. People who have been saying otherwise were clearly just fucking around....myself included. But Gio probably won't be as useful as he is in Parma, while Pepe is almost indispensable in this Juve team.
I absolutely adore those type of players! Whatever they lack in technique they compensate with heart and effort.
I absolutely adore those type of players! Whatever they lack in technique they compensate with heart and effort.
pepe was serie a player of the month in october or november
we have nobody bar vidal that have the engine and agression that pepe has
if marchisio wasent in a dip right now, and we had a quality centerforward, his work would stand out more
giovinco ? meh. will never make it apart from counterattacking teams.
doesnt got the body, definatly doesnt got the attitude
Wait, are you comparing Pepe to Gattuso, Cambiasso, mascherano, keane, etc? 
haha...pepe has nothing CLOSE to anything to guys had other than hard work. Thats it.
---------- Post added 15.03.2012 at 16:18 ----------
Can you make up your mind?
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haha...pepe has nothing CLOSE to anything to guys had other than hard work. Thats it.
---------- Post added 15.03.2012 at 16:18 ----------
Can you make up your mind?---------- Post added 15.03.2012 at 16:19 ----------
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