Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2011-12) (42 Viewers)

[baggio]

it actually makes a lot of sense

Visit the Marrotter thread. And you'll see how those points you've raised have been tackled to the ground by a bunch of sensible people.

 

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[Linebreak]

I did not say that Dzeko would suck, said Toni would.
Is it my fault that we bough Toni instead of Dzeko??

I did not said that that Tevez and Higuain are bad players, but Boriello is a complete waste of resources, is it my fault that we bought him?
Is it my fault that we get the worse choices there are?


Is it my fault that we have priorised the acquisition of a new CM and SS over the acquisition of a new LM, LB and CB for the 13th consecutive time???
For 6 years i m saying that we need a LB starter more than we need a SS sub, is it my fault that we are keep spending most of our budget to bring expensive SSs, even as subs and free/0,5 mil LBs, like Zeglier??

Its just my opinion, and when for once, we made an investment on a serious RB, i was overjoyed, regardless of the end result, because for once we made the right choice.
For how many consecutive years we will forcing to use a CB and CM on the left, be left without left sided options, only because we spend everything we have on new CMs and SSs??, one, two, six, twenty??

How can you justify that?? Why would you?
IMO it is a mistake to priorise the acquisition of a mediocre forward like Boriello over a starter in the defense, because i believe we have more adept options forward ad lack starters in the defense.

I would be a negativist if they were on investing ion the defense more than the offense and still moaning.
It is not my fault that they are keep repeating the very same mistakes again and again and again.

For how many years we are expecting a Juve material LB and always priorise one more SS instead of him and if it was for Cassano, Tevez, Jovetic or Hiquain, then so be it, as we would not have to buy one more next year, but we just keep adding mediocre ones for ever and keep compromising our strengthening elsewhere.
As long as this strategy continues, i will be criticizing it, because i consider it a mistake...

In reality this post makes sense.

We continually for the lower priority + second rate options then later sell most of them for half or less of the price we purchased them for yet we're still meant to be overly optimistic about it all.

 

[Zacheryah]

Visit the Marrotter thread. And you'll see how those points you've raised have been tackled to the ground by a bunch of sensible people.

actually, the "sensible" people are the ones trying to defends these points there


smallminded spoiled kids, or people with no knowledge of this matter like you, try to crush them with pathetic arguments.
calling yourself "the sensible people" doesnt make it right

 

[Zacheryah]

In reality this post makes sense.

We continually for the lower priority + second rate options then later sell most of them for half or less of the price we purchased them for yet we're still meant to be overly optimistic about it all.

cron and LB, if these are your arguments, then i dont want to fucking see you near any of the "omg we draw to much" topics

seriously, first complaining about drawing games, and then going to bash us for getting the best CM in italy+ good priced attack instead of quality leftback.


IF there was a fullback for the right price, we'd have him allready.

 

[Linebreak]

cron and LB, if these are your arguments, then i dont want to fucking see you near any of the "omg we draw to much" topics

seriously, first complaining about drawing games, and then going to bash us for getting the best CM in italy+ good priced attack instead of quality leftback.


IF there was a fullback for the right price, we'd have him allready.

A lot of anger there.

And we definitely draw way too many games.

 

[Fake Melo]

As you all know Curva from vecchiasignora is very well informed regarding Juve. Here's what he has to offer:


Borriello: Conte did not ask for him, nor did he want him. This was all Marotta's idea. Conte fears it'll create tension between Borriello and Matri for the starting place. Conte didn't protest, but doesn't have anything to lose on this.

Pazienza: Pazzi was disappointed because Conte started Pepe in central midfield against Napoli instead of him. Conte looks at him as Pirlo's sub. For now. Guidolin wants him in Udinese because they are losing players to the Africa cup of nations, but the general feeling is that he'll stay.

Pizarro: If we want, we can get him in two seconds. Roma are desperate to get rid off him and we have good relationship with their management. He will be vice-Pirlo if he arrives, but we already have Pazienza... "The technical staff" has to decide on him.

Palombo/Montolivo: The thought is to find a backup for Marchisio and Vidal, not Pirlo. Palombo can easily be bought as Samp wants Marrone on loan. Montlivo will most likely end up at Milan, he wants to start in the Euros and he will most likely get more space in Milan than Juve. We haven't showed any will to get him.

Caceres: Small details left of the deal.

Grosso: He will remain until June. Then go to Dubai.

Iaquinta: Fiorentina has shown interest, but his wages are too high. He wants to stay in Italy.

Amauri: Doesn't seem like he can find a club at the moment, has some admirers in France, but Tottenham and the likes doesn't want him.

Krasic: Inter made an inquiry, Juve asked for Ranocchia in return. Zenit are the only ones to show heavy interest in him. There is Chelsea interest, but no offers.

Zaccardo was offered to us, but we said no.

As far as summer goes: We will not be looking at players like Higuain, but players like Jovetic (Conte LIKES) and Damiao are within our reach.

 

[K.O.]

Zaccardo was offered to us, but we said no.

Thank god. Best thing happened to Juve since scudetto 2006.

 

[Linebreak]

As you all know Curva from vecchiasignora is very well informed regarding Juve. Here's what he has to offer:


Borriello: Conte did not ask for him, nor did he want him. This was all Marotta's idea. Conte fears it'll create tension between Borriello and Matri for the starting place.

Pazienza: Pazzi was disappointed because Conte started Pepe in central midfield against Napoli instead of him. Conte looks at him as Pirlo's sub. For now. Guidolin wants him in Udinese because they are losing players to the Africa cup of nations, but the general feeling is that he'll stay.

Pizarro: If we want, we can get him in two seconds. Roma are desperate to get rid off him and we have good relationship with their management. He will be vice-Pirlo if he arrives, but we already have Pazienza... "The technical staff" has to decide on him.

Palombo/Montolivo: The thought is to find a backup for Marchisio and Vidal, not Pirlo. Palombo can easily be bought as Samp wants Marrone on loan. Montlivo will most likely end up at Milan, he wants to start in the Euros and he will most likely get more space in Milan than Juve. We haven't showed any will to get him.

Caceres: Small details left of the deal.

Grosso: He will remain until June. Then go to Dubai.

Iaquinta: Fiorentina has shown interest, but his wages are too high. He wants to stay in Italy.

Amauri: Doesn't seem like he can find a club at the moment, has some admirers in France, but Tottenham and the likes doesn't want him.

Krasic: Inter made an inquiry, Juve asked for Ranocchia in return. Zenit are the only ones to show heavy interest in him. There is Chelsea interest, but no offers.

Zaccardo was offered to us, but we said no.

As far as summer goes: We will not be looking at players like Higuain, but players like Jovetic (Conte LIKES) and Damiao are within our reach.

Disappointing if true.

 

[Fint]

Marotta is determined to get every Italian pretty boy in this squad, perhaps his sexual preferences are akin to his eyes, they go both ways that is?

 

[Gerd]

Visit the Marrotter thread. And you'll see how those points you've raised have been tackled to the ground by a bunch of sensible people.

mahhhhh it is actually hard to be tackled down really
if amauri takes 3.2 milion and can't be sold that is marottas fault
if iaquinta gets injured every 2 days it is marottas fault

if he finds them a squad and they don't accept and he has no right to make them accept the offers it is still his fault
it is his fault that when he came we had the 6 (if i remember correctly) highest salary of europe without CL with some players that were either not helping the team , flops , overpaid salary

i really don't understand how you expected top signings

i just take an example


if you have 4 decent players in the team do you think it is better to add a 40 milion player or 4 players of 10 milion ?
answer : you add 4 players of 10 milion each

as i already said you add the champions after you have a solid base
you don't add them when the other part of the team is at the end of their carriers or have been demonstrated to be total flops
and just in case if that 40 milion player gets injured who plays ?
do we promote someone from the primavera to take his place ?
considering that we spent all the budget on him there are no substitutes

i still think that we should wait the summer mercato to see if marotta is juve material

 

[Hust]

Grosso/Amauri.

You gotta be fucking kidding me. Grosso would stay these fucking punk ass pussies. Grow a set of balls and move on.

Thank GOODNESS (if true) that Conte likes Jovetic. No reason to stay at fiorentina any longer, they are a sinking ship.

LOL @ the Boriello deal if that is the case. As linebreak said, that would be very disappointing.

I can see one of two things happening now with this Boriello case: Conte is forced to try him and he fails so we drop points. Or Conte refuses to use him because he didn't want him and Boriello starts to bring the moral down by acting out. Either way, Boriello sounds like it was a pretty retarded move.

 

[Linebreak]

Marotta is determined to get every Italian pretty boy in this squad, perhaps his sexual preferences are akin to his eyes, they go both ways that is?

 

[Fake Melo]

I can see one of two things happening now with this Boriello case: Conte is forced to try him and he fails so we drop points. Or Conte refuses to use him because he didn't want him and Boriello starts to bring the moral down by acting out. Either way, Boriello sounds like it was a pretty retarded move.

He said that Conte didn't specifically ask for Borriello, but I don't think it's as dramatic as some of you make it.

 

[Emmet]

Fucking Marotta bringing in Borriello when Conte don't want him, it's not as if he is buying a world class player which in the end up Conte will use to benefit the team, but Marco fucking Borriello. This could backfire very easily. Get Pizarro in and sell Patience to Udine.

 

[Gerd]

Grosso/Amauri.

You gotta be fucking kidding me. Grosso would stay these fucking punk ass pussies. Grow a set of balls and move on.

Thank GOODNESS (if true) that Conte likes Jovetic. No reason to stay at fiorentina any longer, they are a sinking ship.

LOL @ the Boriello deal if that is the case. As linebreak said, that would be very disappointing.

I can see one of two things happening now with this Boriello case: Conte is forced to try him and he fails so we drop points. Or Conte refuses to use him because he didn't want him and Boriello starts to bring the moral down by acting out. Either way, Boriello sounds like it was a pretty retarded move.

i doubt that he will be forced to use him
conte has 2 big balls
he is not afraid to send anyone in the tribuna
he sent krasic and he can do it with borrielo
and if he starts to bring the moral down than we make him train alone like we did with amauri
we give roma 500k , half salary and a kick in the ass to borrielo and send him back to roma

 

[Gerd]

Fucking Marotta bringing in Borriello when Conte don't want him, it's not as if he is buying a world class player which in the end up Conte will use to benefit the team, but Marco fucking Borriello. This could backfire very easily. Get Pizarro in and sell Patience to Udine.

about pizarro noone doubts his quality but is everyone sure about his physical integrity ? he is 32 and apparenly they have said he has somewhat cronic injuries

 

[Zacheryah]

As you all know Curva from vecchiasignora is very well informed regarding Juve. Here's what he has to offer:


Borriello: Conte did not ask for him, nor did he want him. This was all Marotta's idea. Conte fears it'll create tension between Borriello and Matri for the starting place. Conte didn't protest, but doesn't have anything to lose on this.

Pazienza: Pazzi was disappointed because Conte started Pepe in central midfield against Napoli instead of him. Conte looks at him as Pirlo's sub. For now. Guidolin wants him in Udinese because they are losing players to the Africa cup of nations, but the general feeling is that he'll stay.

Pizarro: If we want, we can get him in two seconds. Roma are desperate to get rid off him and we have good relationship with their management. He will be vice-Pirlo if he arrives, but we already have Pazienza... "The technical staff" has to decide on him.

Palombo/Montolivo: The thought is to find a backup for Marchisio and Vidal, not Pirlo. Palombo can easily be bought as Samp wants Marrone on loan. Montlivo will most likely end up at Milan, he wants to start in the Euros and he will most likely get more space in Milan than Juve. We haven't showed any will to get him.

Caceres: Small details left of the deal.

Grosso: He will remain until June. Then go to Dubai.

Iaquinta: Fiorentina has shown interest, but his wages are too high. He wants to stay in Italy.

Amauri: Doesn't seem like he can find a club at the moment, has some admirers in France, but Tottenham and the likes doesn't want him.

Krasic: Inter made an inquiry, Juve asked for Ranocchia in return. Zenit are the only ones to show heavy interest in him. There is Chelsea interest, but no offers.

Zaccardo was offered to us, but we said no.

As far as summer goes: We will not be looking at players like Higuain, but players like Jovetic (Conte LIKES) and Damiao are within our reach.

sounds realistic, and pretty good, since i dont believe that conte part. unless curva is conte or marotta himself

A lot of anger there.

And we definitely draw way too many games.

yeah, avoid the point, nice try

 

[Linebreak]

sounds realistic, and pretty good, since i dont believe that conte part. unless curva is conte or marotta himself



yeah, avoid the point, nice try

Who made you captain point-maker that everyone must take note of?

 

[Gian]

Borriello loan was just a loan with an option or an obligation?

 

[Nzoric]

God.


Option to buy, anything else would be dump.