Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2011-12) (43 Viewers)

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Really before these "average players" came in who would this world class player be supported by?
We already have enough average players to run a team - we don't need to buy 10 average players every mercato - any team only needs 2-3 world class to be competitive at a good level and then slowly buy more WC as the years go on
 

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Well yes, but that I agree with. But to say we can compete financially with the Cities and whoever else is not true.
They obviously have more raw cash due to their ridiculously rich owner - but with competent management we would be able to close good deals before they get their tainted claws on them - Moggi was such a manager and I'm not calling for him to come back, simply pointing out the type of management quality required
 

Juve Libnan

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Jun 20, 2007
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Doing a Man Schitty??

No thanks. I prefer staying out of debt.
And as the bigger teams get bigger and stronger we sit back and brag bout how financially healthy we are cuz thats the only thing were good at

Ppl...were are the juve fans of the 90s!!!

Weve wasted money like krazy on at least 20 very average players!!!Instead of adding 5-6 wc players who would def let us challenge in serie A cuz the league is at an all time low now

I mean even Milan,Serie A champions,couldnt score a goal against fukin Tottenham!!!

Roma were defeeated by Shaktar

Inter were crushed by Schalke

Palermo were knocked out of europa league 2nd round qualifiers LOL!!!!

In europe Italian teams are gettin owned and we finsh 7th twice in that league that has become a laughing stock in europe

I dont get how watching Aguero play the way he did today didnt hurt some of our fans!!weve missed out on countless world class players over the years and gotten trash instead and besides that we never gave our promising youngsters a decent chance
 

Juve Libnan

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What i am trying to say is that given we cant even compete in serie A imagine how much longer it will take to compete in europe given how shitty italian teams are doing

and how badly we have done on the market buying players the last 5 years

players like Martinez,pepe,motta,tiago,andrade,iaquinta,amauri,poulsen,grygera,grosso etc have not only cost us a large amount of transfer fees but have drained us of eve more with their ridiculous wages and their reluctance to leave

While other teams buy quality players and compete on every front

yes juve fans should stop whining and be proud of what they have

the way i see it some fans here have become as delusional as the ppl running the club thinking we will be big one day soon

5 yr project is over and we arent even in the europa league!!
 

DVS

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Nov 13, 2008
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We already have enough average players to run a team - we don't need to buy 10 average players every mercato - any team only needs 2-3 world class to be competitive at a good level and then slowly buy more WC as the years go on
who are these world class players?
 

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What i am trying to say is that given we cant even compete in serie A imagine how much longer it will take to compete in europe given how shitty italian teams are doing

and how badly we have done on the market buying players the last 5 years

players like Martinez,pepe,motta,tiago,andrade,iaquinta,amauri,poulsen,grygera,grosso etc have not only cost us a large amount of transfer fees but have drained us of eve more with their ridiculous wages and their reluctance to leave

While other teams buy quality players and compete on every front

yes juve fans should stop whining and be proud of what they have

the way i see it some fans here have become as delusional as the ppl running the club thinking we will be big one day soon

5 yr project is over and we arent even in the europa league!!
:sergio:
 

Xiven

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Jul 14, 2011
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You really think FFP will stop Barce, RM, and the Man City's of the world stop spending... I dunno way too much money involved putting penalties on these teams
Real Madrid made a profit of 45m Euros last year. They can spend what they want because they make profit. This is what Juventus must aim for.

If FFP is properly put into place, it will affect clubs whose owners put money into the club to buy players. Clubs such as Manchester City (Sheikh Mansour), Chelsea (Roman Abramovich), Inter Milan (Moratti), AC Milan (Berlusconi), Roma (??), PSG (new Qatar owner), Malaga (Sheikh Al Thani).

Will it get put into place properly? Nobody knows. :)

 

DVS

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Nov 13, 2008
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Ok you're right there have been no world class players available since we came back to Serie A
Sure there has but I really think this team should be criticised from the last two summers. Its not fair to Agnelli and Beppe to do so. Also, I just don't think any world class players would have cam to Juve this summer considering their record. Also, Beppe's main mandate was to clean up salary last summer. Yes he made screw ups but guys like Iaquinta and Amauri shouldn't be put on his head.
 

Juve Libnan

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Sure there has but I really think this team should be criticised from the last two summers. Its not fair to Agnelli and Beppe to do so. Also, I just don't think any world class players would have cam to Juve this summer considering their record. Also, Beppe's main mandate was to clean up salary last summer. Yes he made screw ups but guys like Iaquinta and Amauri shouldn't be put on his head.
The reason i have a problem with MArotta and co is DEL NERI!!!

The worst move we could have ever made!

Who is he coaching right now!!

You can not succeed in todays world of football without a coach that knows what it takes to succeed and win

If Conte is a disaster and i sure hope he wont be,that shoudl spell the end for Marotta
 

Flamez

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Feb 7, 2011
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Yep, that's why they'll be screwed when FFP will kick in.
This is simply not true.

Five FFPs programs couldn't deal with Real Madrid alone. City already "fooled" that system. I don't have many doubts that Chelsea and the likes can easily follow City against that "financial fair play program". Those rich clubs appeared in the worst time Juve could ever tought about it.
 

DVS

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Nov 13, 2008
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The reason i have a problem with MArotta and co is DEL NERI!!!

The worst move we could have ever made!

Who is he coaching right now!!

You can not succeed in todays world of football without a coach that knows what it takes to succeed and win

If Conte is a disaster and i sure hope he wont be,that shoudl spell the end for Marotta
I'll agree with that. DelNeri was a horrible choice. I think Ranieri was the last profession coach this team has had
 

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This is simply not true.

Five FFPs programs couldn't deal with Real Madrid alone. City already "fooled" that system. I don't have many doubts that Chelsea and the likes can easily follow City against that "financial fair play program". Those rich clubs appeared in the worst time Juve could ever tought about it.
Your Avatar is a coach worthy of Juve
 

DVS

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Nov 13, 2008
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Real Madrid made a profit of 45m Euros last year. They can spend what they want because they make profit. This is what Juventus must aim for.

If FFP is properly put into place, it will affect clubs whose owners put money into the club to buy players. Clubs such as Manchester City (Sheikh Mansour), Chelsea (Roman Abramovich), Inter Milan (Moratti), AC Milan (Berlusconi), Roma (??), PSG (new Qatar owner), Malaga (Sheikh Al Thani).

Will it get put into place properly? Nobody knows. :)

This is simply not true.

Five FFPs programs couldn't deal with Real Madrid alone. City already "fooled" that system. I don't have many doubts that Chelsea and the likes can easily follow City against that "financial fair play program". Those rich clubs appeared in the worst time Juve could ever tought about it.
Exactly. I really doubt big clubs will care to follow FFP and find something to justify their spending. I really think FFP is made to make sure smaller clubs don't overspend
 
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